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What Does 'Best Picture' Even Mean? | The Oscars Show (Ep. 117)

January 15, 2019/ 48 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda work through Critics' Choice, the guild nominations, SAG's tantrum, the Green Book scandal cycle, and what "Best Picture" should actually mean, five weeks before the Oscars.

36 films across 5 segments.

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Critics' Choice, the Guilds, and the BAFTAsPGA, DGA, WGA, SAG, and BAFTA nominations roll out

The Wife poster

The Wife 2018

Glenn Close's Critics' Choice tie with Lady Gaga prompts a confession from both hosts that neither has seen it.

Roma poster

Roma 2018

Wins Best Picture and Best Director at Critics' Choice, its first big glitzy win after a quiet awards season.

A Star Is Born poster

A Star Is Born 2018

Nominated by nearly every craft guild but hasn't won anything besides "Shallow"; Amanda's theory is it's too well-rounded to isolate a single element to reward.

The Hosting CircusKevin Hart's exit and the Avengers-as-host plan

The Upside poster

The Upside 2019

Hart and Bryan Cranston's dramedy tops the box office that same weekend, proof his fan base hasn't gone anywhere.

Avengers: Infinity War poster

Avengers: Infinity War 2018

The pitch: put the cast in tuxes and let them present instead of naming a single host.

Mr. Wrong poster

Mr. Wrong 1996

Amanda's example of a great Oscars host with almost no actual connection to movies: Ellen DeGeneres's one big-screen credit.

Green Book-pocalypseStock Up, Stock Down

Green Book poster

Green Book 2018

A co-writer's old tweet and a resurfaced Peter Farrelly profile from the '90s roil the campaign a week after its Globes win; both hosts doubt it moves the nominations.

What Does "Best Picture" Even Mean?Amanda's two-part test: genuinely great, and a movie people keep talking about

Black Panther poster

Black Panther 2018

Amanda's pick for where the Oscars should be looking: a comic book movie doing what westerns and musicals used to do.

Shoplifters poster

Shoplifters 2018

Sean's counterpoint: it moved him but didn't stay with him the way Black Panther has.

The Apartment poster

The Apartment 1960

Amanda's example, from her piece, of the Oscars actually rewarding something sophisticated.

The Shape of Water poster

The Shape of Water 2017

Last year's winner, technically impressive, and nobody talks about it anymore.

The Social Network poster

The Social Network 2010

The recurring should-have-won comparison for A Star Is Born: a big, likable movie that didn't change anyone's mind.

Working Girl poster

Working Girl 1988

Turned 30 the year before and people were still writing about it, Amanda's bar for staying power.

Looking Ahead to NominationsGuesses ahead of next week's announcement

BlacKkKlansman poster

BlacKkKlansman 2018

John David Washington and Adam Driver keep showing up everywhere; Sean expects four or five nominations.

First Reformed poster

First Reformed 2018

Paul Schrader's Critics' Choice screenplay win for a film that's been a critical darling, not a commercial one.

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