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What Do Disney Sequels, Zombies, a Nazi Comedy, and Steven Soderbergh Have in Common?

October 18, 2019/ 84 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda ask whether four new political-minded studio movies actually mean anything, then Ruben Fleischer explains ten years of Zombieland: Double Tap.

9 films across 2 segments.

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Movies in a state of political anxietyMaleficent, The Laundromat, Jojo Rabbit, and Zombieland: Double Tap

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil poster

Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019

A Disney sequel that stumbles into a border-war, us-versus-them allegory. Michelle Pfeiffer's Queen Ingrith plays as a straightforward authoritarian, and Sean and Amanda can't tell if the movie knows how dark it's gotten.

The Laundromat poster

The Laundromat 2019

Soderbergh's Panama Papers anthology, structured after Wild Tales, with Meryl Streep, Gary Oldman, and Antonio Banderas. It premiered to middling festival reviews, but Sean and Amanda liked it more than most; they think its nihilistic ending is exactly what turned people off.

Jojo Rabbit poster

Jojo Rabbit 2019

Taika Waititi's Hitler satire won the audience award at Toronto. Amanda finds the emotional material, the kid, the Anne Frank figure, works better than the comedy, some of which lands on Jewish people rather than at the Nazis' expense.

Zombieland: Double Tap poster

Zombieland: Double Tap 2019

Ten years later, the characters are still named for the cities they're from, which is either a comment on tribal identity or nothing at all. Sean mostly just thinks it works as a zombie comedy.

In conversation

Zombieland: Double Tap poster
Ruben Fleischer on

Zombieland: Double Tap 2019

Ten years in the making. An earlier draft with human villains missed the tone of the original entirely and got shelved.

Zombieland poster
Ruben Fleischer on

Zombieland 2009

Never a box-office giant, but it became a cable-and-DVD family staple. Woody Harrelson pushed the studio to cast an unknown Jesse Eisenberg.

Venom poster
Ruben Fleischer on

Venom 2018

Fleischer's reference point was An American Werewolf in London. He wrapped it two weeks before release, took a week off, then went straight into Double Tap prep.

Gangster Squad poster
Ruben Fleischer on

Gangster Squad 2013

A history major's dream assignment: 1949 Los Angeles.

30 Minutes or Less poster
Ruben Fleischer on

30 Minutes or Less 2011

His dark comedy, made in the gap between Zombieland films.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Also political-minded this year Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, MissouriGreen BookJokerParasiteUsBombshellViceThe Big ShortWild Tales

Soderbergh, elsewhere The Informant!Erin BrockovichTrafficHigh Flying BirdUnsane

Disney and family-film precedent Mary PoppinsMary Poppins ReturnsThe Wizard of OzAladdinThe Lion KingKung Fu Panda 3Frozen

Zombie and genre lineage Night of the Living DeadAn American Werewolf in LondonThe UntouchablesPanic RoomNational Lampoon's Vacation

Waititi's other films Thor: RagnarokWhat We Do in the Shadows

Maleficent's cast, elsewhere Control

Ruben Fleischer's filmography Chuck & BuckSuperbadLeave No TraceDeadpoolDeadpool 2

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV SuccessionGame of ThronesThe Walking DeadThe Bold TypeStumptownDawson's CreekPeople Just Do NothingCheers

Podcasts Number One Boys

Named without a specific film Star Wars