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We’re Addicted to ‘The Substance.’ Plus, the Body Horror Hall of Fame!

September 24, 2024/ 103 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda dig into Coralie Fargeat's 'The Substance,' run an impromptu body horror Hall of Fame, and Sean interviews Fargeat.

54 films across 5 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

The newsGolden Globes fees, and an unspeakable 'Brutalist'

The Brutalist poster

The Brutalist 2024

Sean has seen it; Amanda has been kept away. 3.5 hours with a 15-minute intermission, and by his account it moves.

‘The Substance’Amanda saw it days before giving birth

The Substance poster

The Substance 2024

Coralie Fargeat's body horror satire with Demi Moore, Margaret Qualley and Dennis Quaid. Sean calls it baby's-first-body-horror pushed to the 11th level; both read the male gaze as knowing satire and the finale as a movie about addiction as much as beauty.

Demi Moore, and the neighbors of ‘The Substance’Casting, the body-as-subject filmography, and the movies that echo it

Ghost poster

Ghost 1990

The hit that preceded the 1991 Vanity Fair cover; Sean floats it as a Substance double feature.

G.I. Jane poster

G.I. Jane 1997

Another movie built around her body.

Disclosure poster

Disclosure 1994

Amanda's flagged omission; Bill Simmons's white whale for The Rewatchables.

Mommie Dearest poster

Mommie Dearest 1981

The Faye Dunaway / Joan Crawford camp-mania Sean reaches for as a precedent.

A Star Is Born poster

A Star Is Born 2018

The Sue billboard resembles the Château Marmont one.

Babygirl poster

Babygirl 2024

A future pairing on actresses and self-amplification.

Poor Things poster

Poor Things 2023

Where Qualley leaned into the same affectation.

Titane poster

Titane 2021

Julia Ducournau, working the Cronenberg form from France.

Blink Twice poster

Blink Twice 2024

The former 'Pussy Island'; the idea-is-the-text comparison, but grimmer.

A Different Man poster

A Different Man 2024

Aaron Schimberg's A24 movie with Sebastian Stan and Adam Pearson, opening the same weekend and 'so in conversation' with The Substance.

Chained for Life poster

Chained for Life 2018

Earlier Schimberg film with Pearson; Sean sends people to it.

Vertigo poster

Vertigo 1958

Kim Novak, held to the standard she set (the 2014 Oscars moment Sean maps onto the film).

The Body Horror Hall of FameSean's impromptu countdown, No. 1 first

The Fly poster

The Fly 1986

No. 1: the David Cronenberg wing.

Shivers poster

Shivers 1975

No. 1: Cronenberg wing.

Rabid poster

Rabid 1977

No. 1: Cronenberg wing.

The Brood poster

The Brood 1979

No. 1: the pick of the wing; the pregnancy one.

The Thing poster

The Thing 1982

No. 2: Carpenter's take on the genre.

Possession poster

Possession 1981

No. 3: Andrzej Żuławski, Isabelle Adjani and Sam Neill.

Alien poster

Alien 1979

No. 4: double it with Prometheus.

Society poster

Society 1989

No. 5: Brian Yuzna; the movie most cited about the Substance finale.

Basket Case poster

Basket Case 1982

No. 6: the Frank Henenlotter trilogy.

Raw poster

Raw 2016

No. 8: Ducournau's cannibal-at-college debut.

Altered States poster

Altered States 1980

No. 10: Ken Russell, Paddy Chayefsky, William Hurt.

Black Swan poster

Black Swan 2010

Honorable mention; the fingernails.

Ginger Snaps poster

Ginger Snaps 2000

Honorable mention; menstrual-cycle werewolf.

Demon Seed poster

Demon Seed 1977

Honorable mention; the most fucked-up on the list.

Dolls poster

Dolls 1987

Stuart Gordon killer-doll movie from the Cinematheque all-nighter.

Rosemary's Baby poster

Rosemary's Baby 1968

Debated as body horror; ruled slightly too psychological.

In conversation

Revenge poster
Coralie Fargeat on

Revenge 2017

Her first feature; where the insert-shot, sound-driven style crystallized.

RoboCop poster
Coralie Fargeat on

RoboCop 1987

With The Fly, one of the first body horror movies she saw at her grandfather's, in secret.

The Fly poster
Coralie Fargeat on

The Fly 1986

The first body horror movie she names.

The Apprentice poster
Coralie Fargeat on

The Apprentice 2024

Her last-great-thing: Ali Abbasi's film, Sebastian Stan's performance, seen at Cannes.

Also mentioned raised along the way

In passing The Maltese FalconA Clockwork OrangeChicagoIt Ends With UsTransformers OneTrapLonglegsWe Live in TimeThunderboltsThe Shrouds

Universal monsters FrankensteinDraculaThe MummyThe Invisible ManCreature from the Black Lagoon

Trailers before ‘The Substance’ Smile 2AnoraMegalopolisTerrifier 3

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