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Was 2019 the Best Movie Year of the Decade? Plus: 'The Rise of Skywalker' Aftermath. | The Oscars Show

December 30, 2019/ 60 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda do a full-spoilers autopsy of 'The Rise of Skywalker' and the culture war that shaped it, run down Barack Obama's best-of-2019 list, and argue over whether 2019 or 2017 was the best movie year of the decade.

58 films across 5 segments.

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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalkerfull spoilers, and the J.J. Abrams-Rian Johnson culture war

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker poster

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker 2019

Amanda's verdict: it's not a good movie, with no stakes and no real respect for how plotting works, though she says she wasn't mad about it, exactly. Sean was really disappointed, and pins the movie's fan-service panic on Kathleen Kennedy needing to land safely between $1 and $1.5 billion. Both flag it as a direct retreat from 'The Last Jedi' backlash, with Chris Terrio erasing Rian Johnson's 'Rey is nobody' twist by making her Palpatine's granddaughter. It scored a B+ CinemaScore, the franchise's lowest since the prequels, and is trailing 'The Last Jedi' at the box office. Amanda still liked where they landed Rey by the end, even if the plane took two hours to get there.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi poster

Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2017

The film 'Rise of Skywalker' is reacting against. Sean and Amanda trace how its polarized reception, and the vitriol aimed at Kelly Marie Tran, pushed J.J. Abrams and Disney to retrofit most of what Rian Johnson did.

Knives Out poster

Knives Out 2019

Rian Johnson's other 2019 movie, a genuine hit past the $100 million mark while 'Rise of Skywalker' online discourse rages around him. Sean says he's earned the right not to gloat.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens poster

Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2015

The Abrams film that restarted the saga; Amanda notes it's the reason he was back in the director's chair to close it out.

Hark: the Kylo Ren-Rey kiss

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker poster

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Amanda's Hark is aimed at the Kylo Ren-Rey kiss, which she calls the most offensive thing she's seen in the movies this year. Her case: Rey spent the trilogy as a Jedi who wasn't defined by a romance, and a psychic Force bond didn't need to end in a soft kiss to mean something.

Barack Obama's Best Films of 2019 his year-end list, read aloud and interrogated

American Factory poster
Picked by Barack Obama

American Factory 2019

His own production company made it, which Sean flags as not cool; it's the presumed Best Documentary front-runner.

Apollo 11 poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Apollo 11 2019

The space documentary Amanda loved earlier this year; Sean can't picture watching it anywhere but a big screen.

Atlantics poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Atlantics 2019

Small and brilliant, per Sean, alongside 'Diane.'

Diane poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Diane 2019

Ford v Ferrari poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Ford v Ferrari 2019

Sean's read: an easy one for a dad to enjoy.

Just Mercy poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Just Mercy 2019

A civically minded film, per Sean, about a big idea Obama clearly cares about.

Marriage Story poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Marriage Story 2019

Sean confirms Barack and Michelle watched it together.

The Souvenir poster
Picked by Barack Obama

The Souvenir 2019

Amanda's guess: Obama has two daughters in college, so he has empathy for the film's dating-a-heroin-addict plot.

Transit poster
Picked by Barack Obama

Transit 2018

Stock Up, Stock DownBooksmart's rewatch problem, the 2020 slate, and Cats

Booksmart poster

Booksmart 2019

Sean revisited it and found it less rewatchable than he remembered, not as much fun, and argues it should've gone to Netflix instead of a wide release that ultimately bricked.

Mulan poster

Mulan 2020

Sean and Amanda admit they're too old for it; a Ringer colleague calls it the most important Disney movie of all time.

Onward poster

Onward 2020

Not based on prior IP like 'Toy Story 4,' so its success isn't guaranteed.

Soul poster

Soul 2020

Same caveat as 'Onward' -- original Pixar, no built-in guarantee.

Black Widow poster

Black Widow 2021

Sean's already seen the trailer and wants less Taskmaster, more Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, and Rachel Weisz.

Eternals poster

Eternals 2021

Angelina Jolie is in it, which Amanda didn't realize.

Jungle Cruise poster

Jungle Cruise 2021

Sean's real contribution: he loved the actual Disneyland ride in 1993.

The New Mutants poster

The New Mutants 2020

Shot 18 months earlier and still unreleased, which worries Sean.

The Woman in the Window poster

The Woman in the Window 2021

A tough trailer, per Sean; he's read the source novel and won't recommend it, and flags the author's since-exposed backstory.

Free Guy poster

Free Guy 2021

Ryan Reynolds as a video-game background character who becomes self-aware; Sean's a sucker for Reynolds.

The Last Duel poster

The Last Duel 2021

Sean's most excited pick on the slate: Matt Damon and Ben Affleck reuniting, directed by Ridley Scott.

Cats poster

Cats 2019

A world-historical failure, per Sean -- Deadline pegged the loss at a minimum of $71 million, and both hosts marvel at the reshoot-the-fur-technology saga.

Little Women poster

Little Women 2019

A great opening weekend, $30 million over the Christmas holiday.

Uncut Gems poster

Uncut Gems 2019

Broke A24's opening-weekend box office record. Sean floats an Uncut Gems Oscar run; Amanda notes not everyone will take their parents to see it.

The Big Race: Was 2019 the Best Movie Year of the Decade?the five-way Best Picture race, and the case for 2017

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood poster

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 2019

Sean's shorthand for it all year: "the Tarantino movie." One of the five films he says could actually win Best Picture and that you'd recommend to a stranger on the street.

The Irishman poster

The Irishman 2019

"The Scorsese movie," part of Sean's five-way Best Picture case.

Parasite poster

Parasite 2019

"The Bong Joon-ho movie" -- in the head-to-head game, Amanda takes it over 'Okja' without hesitation.

Midsommar poster

Midsommar 2019

Part of the deep A24 bench Sean loved this year.

Us poster

Us 2019

In the head-to-head game, Amanda takes Jordan Peele's 'Get Out' over this one.

Knives Out poster

Knives Out 2019

Sean admits they never even said its name on the show until now.

Also mentioned raised along the way

The 2012 case The MasterDjango UnchainedMagic MikeZero Dark ThirtySkyfallThe Hunger GamesThe Avengers

The 2013 case The Wolf of Wall StreetFrances HaGravityInside Llewyn DavisFrozenSpring BreakersHerEnough Said

The 2017 case Get OutLady BirdPhantom ThreadDunkirkGood TimeCall Me by Your NameThe Big Sickmother!OkjaI, TonyaLoganThor: RagnarokWonder WomanItStar Wars: The Last Jedi

Not yet covered on the show 1917The Two PopesJust MercyClemency

In memoriam Lolita

In passing Toy Story 4Lady and the TrampAnt-Man

Elsewhere on the Ringer Happy GilmoreThe Godfather Part II

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV The MandalorianGame of ThronesWatchmenStar Wars: The Clone Wars

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