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Top Five Movie Dads

October 2, 2020/ 88 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda skip the guest slot up top and just talk fathers: dueling top-five movie-dad lists, then documentarian Kirsten Johnson (and her actual dad, on the phone) on 'Dick Johnson Is Dead.'

27 films across 5 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Movie newsbefore the dad talk: a Lion King sequel, another Borat, and a movie about making 'The Godfather'

Borat poster

Borat 2006

The original. Amanda wonders whether it's now a 2006 cultural artifact that doesn't speak to 2020 the way it once did.

Borat Subsequent Moviefilm poster

Borat Subsequent Moviefilm 2020

Sacha Baron Cohen's surprise sequel, arriving in 22 days, timed suspiciously close to his Oscar campaign for 'The Trial of the Chicago 7.'

Irresistible poster

Irresistible 2020

Jon Stewart's satire, which Amanda rated poorly on her brand-new Letterboxd profile, prompting the whole 'is Borat also dated now' question.

Francis and the Godfather

Barry Levinson's just-announced (not-yet-made) film about the Coppola/Robert Evans clash behind 'The Godfather,' with Oscar Isaac as Coppola and Jake Gyllenhaal as Evans.

Amanda's Top Five Movie Dadsmostly fathers of daughters, ranked best to worst

Father of the Bride poster
No. 1

Father of the Bride 1991

No. 1. George Banks (Steve Martin). A personal pick going back to watching it on VHS with her own dad around age eight; the airport phone call and the growing-up montage still get her every time.

25th Hour poster
No. 2

25th Hour 2002

No. 2. James Brogan (Brian Cox). Her one pick that isn't about a daughter: the closing monologue, imagining a different life for his son, is the scene she can barely get through without crying.

A Star Is Born poster
No. 3

A Star Is Born 2018

No. 3. Lorenzo (Andrew Dice Clay), Ally's father and, unofficially, her manager. A deliberately funny inclusion given who's playing him, but the actual scene work is sincere.

Bad Boys II poster
No. 4

Bad Boys II 2003

No. 4. Marcus Burnett (Martin Lawrence), specifically the 'Who the fuck are you?' scene grilling his daughter Megan's date, Reggie. Protective, but also the one talking Will Smith's character down.

Easy A poster
No. 5

Easy A 2010

No. 5. Dill Penderghast (Stanley Tucci), the permissive, unshockable dad to Olive (Emma Stone). Amanda calls him and Patricia Clarkson's character the movie's great underrated parents.

Sean's Top Five Movie Dadsranked in ascending order of goodness, bad dad to great dad, on purpose

Boyz n the Hood poster
No. 1

Boyz n the Hood 1991

No. 1. Furious Styles (Laurence Fishburne), raising Tre (Cuba Gooding Jr.) with a clear-eyed political education most movie dads never attempt. Sean's pick for the closest thing to an ultimate movie dad.

Kramer vs. Kramer poster
No. 2

Kramer vs. Kramer 1979

No. 2. Ted Kramer (Dustin Hoffman), a single dad by necessity. Sean thinks the film has aged into something still honest about the day-to-day work of parenting, dated sexual politics and all.

Finding Nemo poster
No. 3

Finding Nemo 2003

No. 3. Marlin (Albert Brooks), a dad in peril searching for his lost son. Sean calls it the Bambi of its generation, tragic opening included.

National Lampoon's Vacation poster
No. 4

National Lampoon's Vacation 1983

No. 4. Clark Griswold (Chevy Chase), a bumbling, hopeful, occasionally felonious dad across the whole franchise. Sean rewatched all four over the preceding week. (Christmas Vacation was the one on repeat in Amanda's house growing up.)

The Royal Tenenbaums poster
No. 5

The Royal Tenenbaums 2001

No. 5. Royal Tenenbaum (Gene Hackman), the selfish-egotist type Sean reads as a filmmaker working out frustration with his own father. Paired as a bonus mention with Bernard Berkman (Jeff Daniels) in 'The Squid and the Whale,' a similar character from an Anderson collaborator.

Honorable mentions considered, cut, or disqualified

The Lion King poster
Picked by Sean Fennessey

The Lion King 1994

The James Earl Jones original, pre-loaded on his honorable-mentions list before the Barry Jenkins sequel news even broke.

Return of the Jedi poster
Picked by Sean Fennessey

Return of the Jedi 1983

Darth Vader, considered and passed over: 'not really investing the way he should,' redeemed only when he throws the Emperor down a shaft.

Armageddon poster
Picked by Sean Fennessey

Armageddon 1998

Honorable mention because he dies saving the world, though Amanda notes he also brings his daughter's boyfriend along on the mission that kills him.

Mrs. Doubtfire poster
Picked by Sean Fennessey

Mrs. Doubtfire 1993

The obvious omission both hosts pointedly disqualify: impersonating a nanny to see your kids during a divorce reads as deranged, not devoted.

The Shining poster
Picked by Sean Fennessey

The Shining 1980

Jack Torrance, filed under destructive fathers, not really a contender.

Jaws poster
Picked by Amanda Dobbins

Jaws 1975

Martin Brody, the one she's wistful about cutting. Risks his life on the boat but is, at root, trying to protect his family.

Moneyball poster
Picked by Amanda Dobbins

Moneyball 2011

A late add for divorced-dad etiquette: polite to the ex's new boyfriend, asks the right questions about a kid's first cell phone, moved to tears by a guitar-store performance.

Sleepless in Seattle poster
Picked by Amanda Dobbins

Sleepless in Seattle 1993

Considered for Tom Hanks, a dad also trying to find love again.

The Pursuit of Happyness poster
Picked by Amanda Dobbins

The Pursuit of Happyness 2006

Considered for Will Smith, though she admits she didn't rewatch it in time and isn't sure she loves the film even if she loves what he does in it.

In conversationher dad even calls in partway through

Dick Johnson Is Dead poster
Kirsten Johnson on

Dick Johnson Is Dead 2020

Her documentary about her father's dementia, staging his death (and resurrection) on camera repeatedly. New on Netflix the day of taping; uses slow motion in the fictional set pieces to stretch out her father's fleeting moments of lucidity.

Cameraperson poster
Kirsten Johnson on

Cameraperson 2016

Her prior film, an archival essay built from decades of footage she shot for other documentaries. She says it taught her cinema could 'bring my mother back to life,' which led directly to this one.

The Father poster
Kirsten Johnson on

The Father 2020

Anthony Hopkins's dementia drama, which Sean saw back-to-back with 'Dick Johnson Is Dead' at Sundance. Both agree it's the more emotionally 'safe' version of the same subject: unlike Dick Johnson, Anthony Hopkins is still fine at the end.

Also mentioned raised along the way

The Netflix awards-season slate Da 5 BloodsHillbilly ElegyMankThe Midnight SkyMa Rainey's Black BottomNomadlandOver the MoonCrip Camp

In passing The GodfatherBlack PantherNo Time to DieSoul

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Who Is America?I May Destroy You

Games FIFA World Cup Launch Edition

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