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Top Five L.A. Movies, Plus Karyn Kusama on ‘Destroyer’ | Interview (Ep. 116)

January 11, 2019/ 75 min/ Sean Fennessy · Chris Ryan

Sean Fennessy and Chris Ryan each count down their five favorite L.A. movies since Chinatown, then Karyn Kusama joins to talk Destroyer, the East Side geography she and her husband built it around, and directing Nicole Kidman.

17 films across 3 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Chris Ryan's Top Five L.A. Moviessince Chinatown

The Player poster
No. 1

The Player 1992

Chris's No. 1. Altman's Hollywood satire, written by Michael Tolkin, stars Tim Robbins as a studio exec who thinks he's more important than he is, a delusion Chris says "runs through the veins of so many people in this city."

Drive poster
No. 2

Drive 2011

Paired with Speed as his driving movies. Chris moved to L.A. right before it came out and admits none of the neon, Johnny Jewel soundtrack, or Carey Mulligan picnics by the L.A. River panned out in real life.

Speed poster
No. 3

Speed 1994

Came out right when Chris got his license. He calls it "a 12 Angry Men update," a bus full of strangers thrown together by geography and a bomb.

Repo Man poster
No. 4

Repo Man 1984

Chris's gateway to punk rock and independent film, discovered on VHS. Released the same year as Beverly Hills Cop. The two form his opening pair.

Beverly Hills Cop poster
No. 5

Beverly Hills Cop 1984

The first movie that made Chris ask "what is Los Angeles?" Eddie Murphy as a stranger dropped into a Maserati-and-plastic-surgery version of the city.

Sean Fennessy's Top Five L.A. Moviessince Chinatown

Afternoon Delight poster
No. 1

Afternoon Delight 2013

Sean's No. 1, though he says he ordered his five "chronologically" rather than by favorite. Kathryn Hahn as a woman filling an empty, well-off L.A. life by taking in Juno Temple's stripper as her family's nanny.

Swingers poster
No. 2

Swingers 1996

Paired with The Player as two sides of the same coin: trying to make it in L.A. versus what happens once you do. Doug Liman directed; Jon Favreau wrote and starred.

Magnolia poster
No. 3

Magnolia 1999

PTA's tapestry of a hundred lonely Angelenos, anchored by Philip Seymour Hoffman's Phil Parma. Sean calls it the rare L.A. movie that "feels like it's made by an Angeleno."

The Big Lebowski poster
No. 4

The Big Lebowski 1998

A nod to noir without doing noir. The Dude's supposedly-rich foil shows how illusory L.A. money can be, down to who actually owns the house.

White Men Can't Jump poster
No. 5

White Men Can't Jump 1992

Sean's No. 5, and, per Chris, "the Green Book of its time," a hustler's tour of Venice Beach courts and the alleys behind L.A. apartment buildings.

In conversation

Destroyer poster
Karyn Kusama on

Destroyer 2018

Kusama's noir, led by Nicole Kidman as a burned-out detective revisiting an old undercover case. Shot on the East Side and in Frogtown rather than the Beverly Hills version of L.A. the film deliberately avoids.

Taxi Driver poster
Karyn Kusama on

Taxi Driver 1976

Kusama's touchstone for keeping an audience with a broken character, what she calls "a portrait of mental illness" that's thrillingly entertaining despite itself.

In a Lonely Place poster
Karyn Kusama on

In a Lonely Place 1950

Sean's comparison for Nicole Kidman's Erin Bell, a wounded, ruthless Bogart-style investigator.

The Invitation poster
Karyn Kusama on

The Invitation 2016

Kusama's dinner-party horror movie, written by her husband Phil Hay and Matt Manfredi. It's the project that reunited the three after Æon Flux.

Æon Flux poster
Karyn Kusama on

Æon Flux 2005

Kusama's second feature. A creatively difficult shoot that still forged the working relationship with Hay and Manfredi that led to The Invitation and Destroyer.

Jennifer's Body poster
Karyn Kusama on

Jennifer's Body 2009

Kusama's film, marketed in a way she says she couldn't fully stand behind. She credits its "five-year bounce," the later reassessment once it was seen apart from that original campaign.

Mandy poster
Karyn Kusama on

Mandy 2018

Kusama's answer to the show's closing question. She drove her husband to see it in a theater and calls it "a version of feminism I can get behind in a kind of macho exploitation flick."

Also mentioned raised along the way

Honorable mentions ChinatownLos Angeles Plays ItselfMulholland DriveTo Live and Die in L.A.The LimeyCollateralHeatEnd of WatchL.A. ConfidentialMenace II SocietyBoyz n the HoodFridayWho Framed Roger RabbitJackie BrownNightcrawlerSleep with MeAlpha DogCluelessLess Than ZeroGreenberg

In passing Green BookRudyYoung GunsThe Breakfast Club3:10 to YumaBlade RunnerTerminator 2: Judgment DayPulp FictionReservoir DogsOnly God ForgivesBoogie NightsFirst ReformedAndrei RublevEcho Park

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