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Not a Netflix production, but found a second life on the service, which the hosts say explains a lot about what draws filmmakers there in the first place.
The Big Picture · Discussion · Review · Hall of Fame
April 24, 2020/ 110 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
Sean and Amanda build a 10-film Netflix Original Hall of Fame, then Sean talks to Alex Garland about 'Devs.'
49 films across 4 segments.
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Not a Netflix production, but found a second life on the service, which the hosts say explains a lot about what draws filmmakers there in the first place.
Watched by more people than 'Tiger King' per Netflix's own earnings call, despite pacing and tone problems the hosts say plague a lot of these movies.
Cited as part of the awards-season case for Netflix, alongside 'Marriage Story' and 'American Factory.'
Netflix's first feature, five years old at the time of this taping. Amanda: 'I remember thinking, wow, this feels weirdly unfinished.'
Amanda's pick for what Netflix could have led with instead of 'Beasts of No Nation': a movie about a workplace romance at a sports-media company that hits close to home for two Ringer employees.
The surprise Super Bowl drop the hosts cite as the bad version of Netflix swooping in to rescue a stalled studio project.
Paramount's pandemic-era release-date casualty, picked up by Netflix in the same kind of rescue move that landed 'Triple Frontier.'
Financed by Netflix rather than rescued, which Sean insists still counts.
Named as proof the prestige and awards push is still very much alive alongside the teen-rom-com side of the business.
Documentary about the L.A. LGBTQ bookstore, released the same week as 'The Willoughbys.'
Amanda keeps mistaking the trailer for a British period drama; it's an animated kids' movie.
ExtractionChris Hemsworth, one very long shootout
Directed by stuntman-turned-director Sam Hargrave, produced by the Russo brothers. Amanda's husband ended up watching the whole thing while she cooked dinner and narrating the kills to her; both call it a convincing, disposable action movie built around a 12-minute one-take-style shootout. Compared unfavorably in rewatch value to '6 Underground.'
The Netflix Films Hall of Fame10 spots, one rule: one movie per director
In immediately, no debate, along with 'The Irishman' and 'Marriage Story': the three the hosts agree deserve their own wing but get folded in anyway.
One of the three locks.
The third lock. Disqualifies 'The Meyerowitz Stories' under the one-film-per-director rule, over Sean's objections.
Sandi Tan's documentary about a lost film she made as a teenager and rediscovered decades later. Amanda's find. She made her husband watch it the same night.
Called an uncomplicated choice.
Wins the one-slot showdown with 'Set It Up.' Amanda argues it did more to build a teen audience and a new genre for the service, even though she personally prefers 'Set It Up.' Their producer's vote breaks the tie.
Traded in for 'The Ballad of Buster Scruggs' in a mid-show negotiation. Amanda loves it; Sean says he 'didn't feel complete' watching it, despite Tilda Swinton, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Giancarlo Esposito.
Sean will not let this one go: 'are we the only people left on Triple Frontier Island?'
The Coen brothers movie Sean insisted on, traded for Okja's spot.
Covers the Oscar-bait/documentary case generally: the hosts use it to justify cutting '13th,' 'Crip Camp: A Disability Revolution,' and 'What Happened, Miss Simone?' from the final 10.
The ones that didn't make itthe also-rans, argued out loud
Alice Rohrwacher's film. Both agree it's very good but a tough home watch. Amanda calls it more of an 'event' movie.
Mati Diop's film. Sean argues it deserves more of a case than 'Happy as Lazzaro' but it gets bumped anyway.
Produced by the Obamas' Higher Ground; both find it well made and educational but not quite at 'American Factory' level.
Sean recalls a Telluride crowd predicting a Best Picture win; it didn't happen.
Chris Smith's documentary, discussed alongside the competing Hulu Fyre Festival doc. Sean: 'this is kind of like watching eight really good YouTube videos in a row.'
Dan Gilroy's art-world horror. Sean: 'imperfect,' with 'a very strange Jake Gyllenhaal performance.'
Ava DuVernay's documentary. Called hugely important to Netflix's history ('there is no Crip Camp: A Disability Revolution without 13th'), but it loses its spot to Icarus.
Dee Rees's film, which Amanda never actually finished.
Tamara Jenkins's film, starring Kathryn Hahn and Paul Giamatti. Both call it underseen and well-reviewed, but not representative enough of the broader Netflix slate to make the cut.
Starring Allison Williams. Sean: 'disruptive and fucked up and also fascinating.'
Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson hunting Bonnie and Clyde, directed by John Lee Hancock.
Amy Poehler's comedy.
Brad Pitt's first movie for a streaming service, called an important precedent for the industry even though the film itself landed poorly.
Sean's preferred Baumbach film, disqualified once 'Marriage Story' takes the one-per-director slot.
The animated film, called good but not worthy of a spot.
Soderbergh's iPhone-shot film. Called the more 'important' of his two 2019 Netflix movies, and briefly pinned before losing its place.
Soderbergh's other 2019 release.
Mike Flanagan's Stephen King adaptation with Carla Gugino. Called phenomenal but not top-10 material.
Joe Swanberg's film with Jake Johnson.
Documentary about the making of Orson Welles's 'The Other Side of the Wind.'
Eddie Murphy's comeback vehicle.
Nominated for the Best Documentary Oscar the same year as 'Amy,' called possibly the first Netflix Oscar nomination.
Michael Bay's film, used as the yardstick for how much less coherent 'Extraction' feels by comparison.
Alan Yang's directorial debut. Both admire the craft but feel its influences (Edward Yang, Wong Kar-wai) show through more than the movie's own voice.
The Taylor Swift documentary. Amanda brings it up as a late add to acknowledge Netflix's music-doc lane; Sean rules it out immediately.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Netflix's 2020 slate, mentioned Da 5 BloodsHillbilly ElegyI'm Thinking of Ending ThingsMankThe Midnight Sky
In passing ParasiteScoob!Jim & Andy: The Great BeyondAmerican MovieTrolls World Tour
Other 2015 Best Documentary nominees AmyCartel LandThe Look of SilenceWinter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom
Alex Garland interview, in passing 2001: A Space OdysseyContagion28 Days LaterEx MachinaAnnihilationStalker
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV Tiger KingOuter BanksToo Hot to HandleDevsMrs. AmericaThe Haunting of Hill HouseThe Haunting of Bly ManorIt's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Games Call of Duty
Ads World Central KitchenSpotify