Sinners 2025
The only Best Picture contender they think is currently in play.
The Big Picture · Discussion
August 5, 2025/ 114 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
The last Sean-and-Amanda episode of the summer is a listener mailbag that mostly skips the summer that just happened. It wanders through July 4th traditions, the movies that taught them to swear, summertime-sadness double bills, cocktail pairings, a fall-slate traffic jam, and a long detour explaining Fortnite.
222 films across 21 segments.
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Taking stock of the summerbefore the mailbag
The only Best Picture contender they think is currently in play.
The Celine Song movie people went to see and got mad about, Sean's favorite discourse of the year.
The PTA movie hanging over the whole fall; at least three episodes promised.
A 25-for-25 screening Sean is presenting at the Aero while Amanda's in Venice.
Your summer movie MVPTyler — catch: can't be a movie
Celine Song's desert-island pick, to her own bemusement.
Sean hasn't seen it at record time; sold by old-school analog marketing.
Didn't love it, but the biplanes were 20 minutes of cinema.
The only Smurfs content anyone absorbed: Rihanna's kids in Baby Dior at the premiere.
4th of July viewing traditionsMatt
The obvious answer.
The house tradition, and genuinely scary for how deep it runs in American culture.
This year's making-of doc took the place of the annual Jaws screening.
Russian Jewish immigrant mice: basically The Godfather, but for mice.
De Palma; the climax plays out in front of fireworks.
Altman will come up again in the near future.
Amanda's summer answer: Americans abroad in Keds betraying each other.
Underdiscussed Nancy Meyers; they meet at camp.
Baumbach's back-to-school movie, an all-timer for Sean.
Formative in your swearing educationMatthew
Once held the record for F-bombs; they say it like poetry.
Amanda at 10, when the Brits treated cursing as poetry.
No real curses, but hugely formative for how to talk.
Summertime sadness filmsMackenzie
Rohmer; Mackenzie can only rewatch it so many times.
Archetypal, and it nails summer as a time of longing.
Spike Lee's memory movie, based on his sister's summer down south.
Another Rohmer summer movie Sean recommends.
Early Joanna Hogg vacation movie.
Wedding season, short sleeves on the golf course: summer-coded.
Edward Yang; summer in the title if not literally a summer movie.
Adult, steamy, sun-soaked summer moviesStephanie
William Hurt sweating through cotton poplin in Florida.
Sex on a marble staircase; a remake being remade again with Michael B. Jordan.
The Steve McQueen original.
Slept-on Guadagnino; sex scenes in a field with bees.
Sean's overlap pick for Mackenzie and Stephanie: sexy and sweaty.
Being remade as a movie; the one Amanda feels protective of.
Habits shaped by the people in your lifeBrent
Brent's girlfriend broke her no-horror rule on Amanda's word and now loves it.
Amanda met her husband outside a screening of it.
Zach saw it a year before Amanda, who was newly pregnant and denied a ticket.
Sean's dad showed him every Barry Levinson film; the one-to-one to working at The Ringer.
Amanda has liked every Scream movie as her horror door opens.
Didn't like the reboot but went for the pop-cultural event.
Top 5 to prep for the fall slateBen
Rewatch ahead of Park Chan-wook's No Other Choice.
Robert Downey Sr. satire, hugely influential on PTA, prep for One Battle After Another.
Trier, with Anders Danielsen Lie, ahead of Sentimental Value.
Jafar Panahi on what it means to make something.
The original, ahead of del Toro's version.
Under-the-radar not-quite-biopic; the 25-for-25 pick people were mad about.
Any Baumbach, to get ready for Bob Baumbach.
Where's the Daniel Day-Lewis hype?Tim
DDL's first film since 2017, directed by his son Ronan; a Hall of Fame is being built around it.
A big DDL film that's fallen out of fashion.
The Mutiny on the Bounty remake with Gibson and Hopkins.
Bill the Butcher, he rocks.
One of the obscure mid-'80s DDL films Sean wants to fill in.
Another obscure DDL film on his catch-up list.
Do we have too many movies in Q4?Will
Proof you don't need fall to make a year-round impact.
Linklater; just got a trailer.
Aziz Ansari's directorial debut.
The big-budget March slot after the Oscars.
Also March, Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Emerald Fennell, February, with Margot Robbie.
Sean's cautionary tale: a Bong blockbuster nobody went to see.
The Michael Jackson biopic, redated to April.
Travel destinations and the movies to pairLiam, honeymooning across France
From Liam's own honeymoon list.
From Liam's list, and a permanent shout out to Marie Antoinette.
From Liam's list.
From Liam's list.
From Liam's list.
Paris double header with Funny Face.
Roman Holiday but in France, more or less.
Julie Delpy with her real parents; then things devolve.
Agatha Christie on a Mediterranean island.
Filmed in Egypt; galloping to the pyramids.
Prep for Nouvelle Vague.
Linklater's film about the making of Breathless, shot on the streets of Paris.
For teaching kids about Paris.
Japan; Sean wants the Park Hyatt and the Hyatt points.
The best year for summer moviesNancy — nominated 1997
Sean's 1994, seen four-plus times; a genuine phenomenon at the time.
The superior of the two Harrison Ford Jack Ryan films.
Forgotten, in part because we're slowly deleting Mel Gibson.
Amanda's 1995, pervasive enough that everyone did the speech.
Hot trash, but you're 11 and it's Val Kilmer.
Amanda's life changed forever 30 years ago at Lenox Mall.
Jack's Technicolor moment; the Gen Z-episode pick.
A cocktail paired with your summer rewatchableElizabeth
A Coors Banquet, what the kids would've drunk.
Stoli and Gatorade; first seen on a VHS on an unchaperoned ski-trip bus.
A gin martini, Plymouth, Aviator if it's on offer.
A Golden State Margarita: Don Julio 1942, passion fruit liqueur, lime.
Amanda: a Negroni. Campari only.
Also a Negroni.
Also a Negroni.
Movies more than worth a reappraisalDrew
Drew's example: Gregg Araki.
Drew's example: Jonathan Glazer.
Very Ringer-coded; talked about here, not elsewhere.
Reichardt that gets shouted out less than her masterworks.
A big deal at the time, then Refn stopped.
Sean's prediction that the Best Picture win ages badly in a stack.
Modest at release, now clearly one of the most influential of its year.
Coming to Criterion; Sean's only seen it once.
Every Wes Anderson film since gets praised, then drops out of the conversation.
A hit in the house with Knox.
Zach was randomly rewatching it; now streaming.
Overlooked Spike Lee; the best Nick Cannon performance in movie history.
Making friends at the rep theaterChiarise
The Letterboxd top-four thirst trap: one Heat, one Kurosawa, one PTA, one Michael Mann.
Zach took Amanda on their second date: the best move in the whole segment.
Zach put it on to nurse her through a bad oyster; she accepted.
The film you don't log if you're not looking for that guy.
Best alternative summer viewing experienceJamie
Jamie saw it at the Hollywood Bowl with the LA Phil.
On the Cinespia August lineup.
Sean and CR in tears at Hollywood Forever, saying 'we did it, this is America.'
Sean's first gummy; lost control of his mind.
Participatory but not annoying.
A little tough in that setting.
Jack saw it in his childhood theater among the kids in suits.
Sean considering getting his son out of bed to see the sequel's cranes.
Favorite performances so far this yearNathan
Tramell Tillman's 'you must be out of your mind' is where the movie shifts.
Tom Burke.
Miles Caton a revelation; Delroy Lindo a personal favorite.
Benicio del Toro.
Deirdre O'Connell as Emma Stone's mother, a little overlooked.
Ava Victor, plus a comfortable Lucas Hedges and Naomi Ackie.
Best last-great-thing answersBill (the Joan question was about a GQ shirt)
James Gray's recommendation that Sean hadn't heard of and eventually saw.
The director game, five years laterJoe — who's leading the 2020s?
Just seen on 70mm at the Aero; Peele holds up.
The Nolan they'd have drafted, if it counts as 2000.
Ari Aster's debut; Sean flirts with taking him over Peele.
Charlotte Wells.
Amanda's pick, Celine Song, which she calls revelatory.
RaMell Ross, discounted for the Hale County doc.
Jane Schoenbrun.
Cord Jefferson.
Emerald Fennell, not getting picked.
A.V. Rockwell; one of Sean's favorites of 2022.
Sean Wang.
Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Payal Kapadia.
Emma Seligman, on Amanda's shortlist.
Darius Marder.
Lin-Manuel Miranda.
The Philippou brothers, on Sean's shortlist.
Zach Cregger, Sean's pick for the 2020s.
Michael B. Jordan.
36 hours from seeing it; might change his mind on Cregger.
Does watching this much numb the joy?Brendan
The dance-movies homework Amanda's grinding through, nine movies deep.
Predictions for next summerNate
Nolan; Sean won't buy 70mm tickets a year out and objects to the eventizing.
Dated May 1; Amanda already bought boots off The RealReal from a paparazzi photo.
Travis Knight, Nicholas Galitzine; Sean's He-Man religion revisited.
Knight's not-bad Transformers movie.
The iPad is the villain.
The Tom Holland one, not a drawn one.
Milly Alcock and Krypto.
Sébastien Vaniček, who made Infested.
Eileen kept asking Sean to turn it off, then to turn it back on.
David Robert Mitchell, Anne Hathaway, reportedly dinosaurs: too much to process.
The Anne Hathaway monster movie that didn't work for Sean.
Amanda never saw it; Sean thinks it's terrible.
Sean saw it twice in 70mm and was glad he did.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing A Minecraft Movie
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV Pride and Prejudice (upcoming series)Masters of the Universe (Netflix series)He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (1983 series)She-RaIronheart
Video games FortniteResident Evil
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