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December 9, 2024/ 89 min/ Sean Fennessey · Joanna Robinson
Sean Fennessey and Joanna Robinson read the 2025 Golden Globe film nominations the morning they dropped and sort the 'new Globes' (Fernanda Torres, A Different Man, a big Substance haul) from the 'old Globes' (Pamela Anderson, Angelina Jolie, a two-nomination Last Showgirl outdrawing Sing Sing). Emilia Pérez leads with 10, The Brutalist rebounds with 7, Sebastian Stan lands a double nomination, and Dune: Part Two limps to two. Then Sean talks to Richard Gere about Oh, Canada, his reunion with Paul Schrader 45 years after American Gigolo.
88 films across 3 segments.
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Snubs, surprises, and WTFsnew Globes vs. old Globes, category by category
10 nominations, the most of the morning. Sean reads it as the international body (300-plus overseas journalists) rubber-stamping a true contender after strong runs at the European Film Awards and abroad. Joanna is more mixed, noting the film has been critically pilloried since it hit Netflix and isn't guaranteed to bloom at the Oscars.
7 nominations, second only to Emilia Pérez, a rebound after Brady Corbet's film and Adrien Brody missed in some big precursor spots. Guy Pearce and Felicity Jones also land supporting nods; Sean, self-described scoutmaster of the Brutalist boys, is pleased.
A huge haul for a French body-horror movie: Best Comedy or Musical, two acting nods (Demi Moore and Margaret Qualley), and Coralie Fargeat in Best Director. The hosts call it the best possible news for Moore as she flirts with the last slot in a crowded Best Actress race.
Held serve, which is all it needs to do this early: in for Picture, Director, Actress (Mikey Madison), Supporting Actor (Yura Borisov), and Screenplay. Joanna thinks it has the 'everybody likes it' spot locked.
Colman Domingo gets in, but Clarence Maclin is snubbed, bizarre given both won at the Gothams to the loudest reaction in the room. Fewer nominations than The Last Showgirl, which the hosts call not ideal; they blame the film's unglamorous, non-professional cast reading as too American for the Globes.
Sebastian Stan double-nominated, Best Actor Drama for this and Musical/Comedy for A Different Man, and the hosts' pick for biggest winner of the morning. They note nobody in the U.S. wants to touch the Trump movie (Stan was cut from Variety's Actors on Actors), which may push his campaign toward A Different Man.
Stan's Musical/Comedy nod, for the Aaron Schimberg dark comedy that just won Best Film at the Gothams. Sean holds it up as the model of using Marvel money to make something strange; both hosts prefer his work here.
Best Drama, Best Director (Edward Berger), score, and Isabella Rossellini in Supporting Actress despite seven minutes of screen time. Joanna doesn't think it can win: its best shot is Screenplay, the field's only real adaptation. But she sees it taking the SAG ensemble as the undivisive meatball down the middle.
Only two nominations, and Denis Villeneuve snubbed in Director. The hosts, self-identified Dune fanboys, call it astonishing that at the Globes of all places the film underperformed this badly; they concede it basically never had a chance as part two of a planned trilogy.
Fernanda Torres in Best Actress Drama, the New Globes critics-and-international pick. The Brazilian journalists have run a forceful campaign for the Walter Salles film, and it's Joanna's heart pick to win International Feature.
Timothée Chalamet in Best Actor and Edward Norton in Supporting for his Pete Seeger. Joanna previews her upcoming episode on the Dylan biopic (she liked it, no meltdown) and flags that Mangold's rewrite pumped up the Joan Baez and Susie Rotolo material.
Four nominations including Zendaya, which the hosts cheer as keeping a fading contender alive. Joanna most wants it to win Score for the Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross club-music soundtrack, which she calls a genuine step in contemporizing film music.
Marianne Jean-Baptiste left out of Best Actress, one of the morning's biggest snubs for a Mike Leigh performance that has won precursors and could take the BAFTA. Part of a run of overlooked Black performers the hosts flag, alongside Danielle Deadwyler and Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor.
Two nominations, led by Pamela Anderson: a very old-Globes pick, and a cut below the newly critically acclaimed Globes, that outdrew Sing Sing and edged out Jean-Baptiste.
Kate Winslet nominated in Best Actress Drama for Ellen Kuras's wartime-photographer film. The hosts compare the push to the Andrea Riseborough / To Leslie campaign, run by some of the same people, though a bona fide movie star with a Globe nod is a different story.
RaMell Ross snubbed in Director, a surprise given the film's momentum in cinematography and craft; very old-Globes to miss it. Aunjanue Ellis-Taylor also left out of Supporting Actress.
Sean's last loser of the morning: if Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh weren't getting in at the Globes, they aren't getting in anywhere. The A24 movie both hosts enjoyed looks shut out of the season.
The 2025 Golden Globe film nominationsnominations morning, no winners called yet
Richard Gere on 'Oh, Canada'
Paul Schrader's adaptation of Russell Banks's novel Foregone, about a celebrated documentarian looking back on, and misremembering, his life on camera. Gere took it right after his father died a month shy of 101; he pushed Schrader to bring the wife (Uma Thurman) into the Errol Morris-style Interrotron shot so Leonard Fife could confess directly to her. Jacob Elordi, cast before his breakout, plays the younger Fife.
His first film with Schrader, 45 years earlier. Gere resisted reading Oh, Canada as a demythologizing of that Lothario role, but grants the meta connection of the two men telling a late-life story about how it all began.
The Rob Marshall musical Gere almost passed on (he'd found the stage show only fine) until a script he calls brilliant made sense of it as a movie about fame and projection. He plays the cynical lawyer who understands the whole game.
His last-great-thing pick, and not self-serving by accident: a documentary on the Dalai Lama, a teacher and friend of Gere's for 40-plus years, that he and Oren Moverman re-edited. It premiered at the Zurich Film Festival and left him devastated.
One of the films Gere names as underseen: a small Joseph Cedar movie, produced by Oren Moverman, that got too small a release.
Another underrated pick, one his friend Jonathan Cott brings up often.
The Robert Altman film Gere defends (critics were hard on it) for its refusal to cut the closing childbirth close-up that got it banned from release in Catholic countries.
Named as a movie that should have been seen and appreciated, off the radar and never should have been.
His portrait of an extreme bipolar man, which his friend Jonathan Cott insists was completely overlooked.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Snubs and losers named in passing BlitzThe OutrunThe Piano LessonEvil Does Not ExistDrive My CarFlowDeadpool & Wolverine
Comparisons and box-office talk The TouristTo LeslieAmadeusRed OneMoana 2PrometheusVenom: The Last DanceParanormal ActivityTaylor Swift: The Eras Tour
Gere filmography in passing 2001: A Space OdysseyThree ChristsMaybe I Do
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV The AgencyThe BureauThe HourTurner Classic Movies
Books and plays ForegoneKrapp's Last TapeDylan Goes Electric
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