Divinity 2023
His No. 5. Eddie Alcazar's black-and-white sci-fi, executive-produced by Steven Soderbergh; premiered at Sundance.
The Big Picture · Roundtable · Review · Interview
December 29, 2023/ 104 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
The year-end sign-off: Sean and Amanda each count down five overlooked 2023 movies, then bring on David Shoemaker and director Sean Durkin to talk about The Iron Claw.
17 films across 3 segments.
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The 10 Most Underrated Movies of 2023 Sean and Amanda, five picks each, counting down
His No. 5. Eddie Alcazar's black-and-white sci-fi, executive-produced by Steven Soderbergh; premiered at Sundance.
His No. 4. Babak Jalali's black-and-white portrait of an Afghan refugee in California, with a late Jeremy Allen White cameo.
His No. 3. Cyril Schaublin's 1877-set film about a watchmaker drawn into the anarchist movement in Switzerland.
His No. 2. William Friedkin's final film, on Paramount+.
His No. 1. Wes Anderson's summer release, which he argues everyone took for granted.
Her No. 5, paired with Joy Ride. Emma Seligman's comedy; Sean nearly put Marshawn Lynch on his performances of the year.
Her No. 5, paired with Bottoms. Adele Lim's road-trip comedy, which she calls genuinely overlooked.
Her No. 4. Nicole Holofcener, with Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Tobias Menzies.
Her No. 3. Daniel Goldhaber's eco-thriller; also a top-five pick for Bobby Wagner and Chris Ryan.
Her No. 2. Ira Sachs, with Franz Rogowski as the toxic center.
Her No. 1. A.V. Rockwell's debut, with Teyana Taylor as a mother raising her son across 1990s New York.
'The Iron Claw'with David Shoemaker
Sean Durkin's A24 drama about the Von Erich wrestling family, discussed with The Ringer's David Shoemaker. Zac Efron, Jeremy Allen White, Harris Dickinson, Stanley Simons, Holt McCallany, and Maura Tierney; the climax that never lands in the ring, and the afterlife scene all three agree shouldn't work but does.
Sean Durkin on 'The Iron Claw'
Seven years of writing, chipping the Von Erich epic down to Kevin's survival story; on the afterlife scene, born partly from Kerry's real suicide note.
His Sundance-winning debut, which the hosts compare to The Iron Claw's slow mid-film dread.
The other touchstone he cites for the psychological horror running through his work.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Sean's honorable mentions Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among ThievesGuy Ritchie's The CovenantAnyone but YouSilent NightThe Equalizer 3SickKnock at the CabinFallen Leaves
Bobby's pick Perfect Days
In passing BarbieKillers of the Flower MoonThe Zone of InterestOppenheimerThe WrestlerFighting with My FamilyThe Great SantiniAndre the GiantCivil WarAquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV The CrownThe Gilded AgeDark Side of the RingMindhunterDead RingersSouthcliffeThe BearWorld Class Championship Wrestling
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