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Chris Ryan's running bit: 'Christmas is in every Shane Black movie.'
The Big Picture · Discussion · Draft
December 2, 2021/ 68 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Chris Ryan
Sean, Amanda, and Chris Ryan run the holiday edition of the movie draft, six categories: drama, comedy/action/horror, musical, Oscar nominee, blockbuster, and a wildcard opened up to any holiday content, not just movies.
50 films across 3 segments.
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What counts as a holiday moviesetting the rules before the draft
Chris Ryan's running bit: 'Christmas is in every Shane Black movie.'
cited as the MCU movie with 'some holiday stuff' in it, short of a real Christmas movie.
the test case for a definition stretched too far: 'if somebody tries to be like Endgame as a Christmas movie... come on, dawg.'
Amanda's joke about the wildcard rule getting too loose: 'Fennessy can pick Jaws because it's July 4th.'
The teams drafting holiday movies
the first overall pick, over the objections of Bill Simmons, who doesn't count it as a Christmas movie.
'won like every single Oscar ever'; spans both Christmas and New Year's, the whole holiday run.
Sofia Coppola's Bill Murray special, filmed at the Carlyle's Bemelman's Bar; 'way underrated.'
the 1947 original; rewatched most years, also covered on the show's best-courtroom-dramas list.
starts and ends at Christmas; she had a reading from it at her wedding.
not a film: the Phil Spector Christmas album, played every year 'to my husband's chagrin,' picked under the show's expanded wildcard rule.
nominated for four Oscars: visual effects, sound mixing, film editing, sound editing; 'basically invents the next 30 years of action movies.'
Todd Haynes; picked fresh off thinking about him via the Velvet Underground documentary.
the National Lampoon movie that 'found an extra gear'; Randy Quaid's supporting turn singled out.
Vincente Minnelli; Judy Garland's 'Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas.'
set at Christmas in L.A.; 'famously features a cocaine bust in a Christmas tree lot.'
not a film: her annual 'Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)' performances on Letterman, dating back to his public-access days; the pick that inspired the wildcard category.
Frank Capra; 'a movie about a guy losing his mind' for 98 minutes before the famous last ten.
produced and story by Tim Burton, directed by Henry Selick; 75 minutes, 'not aged a day.'
Richard Donner's Christmas Carol retelling with Bill Murray, nominated for Best Makeup; Michael O'Donoghue co-wrote.
The ones that got awaycall-outs after the draft closed
Chris's Shane Black movie he couldn't find room for.
Robert Mitchum and Janet Leigh; a widow, her son, and a drifter. 'The most charming Christmas movie you've ever seen,' newly discovered on HBO Max.
Vince Vaughn and Reese Witherspoon; 'an incredible Robert Duvall performance.'
Amanda's dad's pick, shown to her at age seven: 'it didn't take.' Lost the Oscar-nominee slot to The Apartment.
the hypothetical over Elf: 'one thousand times out of a thousand.'
on both Sean and Amanda's lists, picked by neither.
the 'underrated' Seth Rogen Christmas movie.
called out as a favorite, if 'a little new' for the mix.
passed over for being 'approximately 14 hours long' (one of the longest films ever put in cinemas, by Sean's count).
expected of Sean, not picked.
Sean wasn't sure horror belonged in the conversation at all.
'a pretty good slasher,' Chris's counter-suggestion.
Amanda expected it of Chris; 'that movie's insane': Sarah Jessica Parker, Dermot Mulroney, Claire Danes, Luke Wilson.
another family-destroys-itself-at-Christmas favorite, from an older period.
Whit Stillman's, floated as a good one.
'a classic that was never a classic' to either Sean or Chris.
floated with barely a reaction: 'have you seen that one? Not really.'
Bergman, 'arguably his greatest film,' still on the board for Oscar nominee when Sean passed on it.
also on the board for Oscar nominee, 'a terrific Christmas movie,' unpicked.
the most well-known Hanukkah movie, brought up since none got picked.
floated as another Hanukkah option; nobody at the table had seen it.
the Thanksgiving movie that's 'in the rearview mirror' by December.
debated as a maybe: 'most of it's about the summer.'
Fievel, brought up as a Gizmo cousin.
Amanda's biggest regret: 'could have been a first overall pick,' either version.
'definitely' a Christmas movie by the group's own definition, surprisingly unpicked.
Chris watches it every Christmas but self-excluded it: 'it's not about the holidays, it's just played on TV every year at that time.'
Sean's actual pick for best New Year's Eve movie, over Phantom Thread.
Sean's other New Year's Eve nominee.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Next week: best of 2021 preview Licorice PizzaThe Power of the DogThe Velvet UndergroundEternalsGhostbusters: Afterlife
Off-topic asides Boogie NightsThe MasterMichael Clayton
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