One Battle After Another 2025
The full trailer dropped. Paul Thomas Anderson, Leonardo DiCaprio; they've seen it and are in. Filed under 'it does feature women, so it's germane.'
The Big Picture · Discussion · Review
March 28, 2025/ 94 min/ Amanda Dobbins
For Women's History Month, Amanda Dobbins and Ringer colleague Yossi Salik try to define the 'Garbage Women Canon': direct-to-streaming movies where a famous actress works through domestic life in a mediocre-but-watchable film. They review two new candidates, Nicole Kidman's 'Holland' and Amy Schumer's 'Kinda Pregnant,' then run the induction rules past a long ballot of streaming-era titles.
17 films across 4 segments.
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One piece of news first
The full trailer dropped. Paul Thomas Anderson, Leonardo DiCaprio; they've seen it and are in. Filed under 'it does feature women, so it's germane.'
'Holland'Nicole Kidman · Prime Video · dir. Mimi Cave
Kidman as a Midwestern teacher who suspects her husband (Matthew Macfadyen) of an affair, in a Dutch-themed Michigan town. Rachel Sennott shows up for 20 seconds and vanishes; the tulip festival, the stolen bacon, and Gael García Bernal's fugitive backstory all get raised and dropped. Consensus: incoherent, an hour too long, and a defining example of the mystery-bad-wig problem. Kidman's accent lands somewhere near Marilyn Monroe.
'Kinda Pregnant'Amy Schumer · Netflix · dir. Tyler Spindel
Schumer plays a teacher who fakes a pregnancy out of envy when her best friend (Jillian Bell) gets pregnant. A Happy Madison production that Amanda and Yossi both, a little sheepishly, enjoyed: pregnancy as body-horror comedy, with Will Forte, Brianne Howey, and a scene-stealing Urzila Carlson doing the Melissa McCarthy 'Bridesmaids' role. The rare canon entry with an actual sex scene.
The Garbage Women Canonthe ballot: 'Holland' and 'Kinda Pregnant' are both inducted
Kidman and a much-younger Zac Efron; Joey King as the assistant daughter, Kathy Bates grounding it. Amanda ranks it high on the pile, knows it's silly and plays broad. Great kitchen, obviously fake PCH real estate, and a wig that seems to change length.
Reese Witherspoon and Ashton Kutcher with zero chemistry, split-screened across a Sleepless-in-Seattle setup. Written/directed by Aline Brosh McKenna. Amanda has now seen it twice and remembers nothing but the bad jeans.
Witherspoon and Will Ferrell; a garbage-women movie welded to a garbage-Gen-Z movie. Funny in pieces (the Southern family), but no chemistry to sell the romance. Best joke is the last line in the car.
Yossi's white whale: she has made everyone in her life watch it. Laura Dern as a novelist at a Morocco writers' residency who falls for Liam Hemsworth's finance boyfriend. Preposterous throughout; involves NFL play-calling. The shrine of the canon.
The one Yossi fights to keep out: Steven Soderbergh, Meryl Streep, Candice Bergen, Dianne Wiest, improvised on a cruise ship. Meets every criterion and is far too good; sits at the very top of Mount Garbage Women.
Anne Hathaway as a Silver Lake gallery owner who falls for a Harry Styles-ish pop star at Coachella. Michael Showalter; competently made, but the relationship is never earned. The 'I can see that' dialogue is entered into evidence.
Amanda's borderline case: a Netflix thriller, not a comedy, with Jessica Chastain and Eddie Redmayne (two Oscar winners). Deemed a 'garbage two-hander' since it centers on Redmayne too. Neither host had fully seen it.
IP with a theatrical pedigree, but it went straight to streaming, so it counts. Launchpad for the May-December debate: why is a woman dating a younger man (Leo Woodall) sold as empowerment when the reverse is a crime against humanity?
The stretch case: Sofia Coppola as the eligible 'garbage woman.' Rashida Jones as a blocked novelist mom, Bill Murray as her charming father, a real Cy Twombly in the frame. Fits in text; the trappings are far too Coppola.
Kristen Stewart and Aubrey Plaza; rides the line between garbage women and 'holiday garbage,' its own adjacent genre. They rule the chair, so it goes in.
Former-box-office-juggernaut category. Lindsay Lohan's comeback; Yossi's original bait to Amanda ('do you like films like Irish Wish?'). Actual chemistry, and everyone watched it together, which has value.
Jennifer Lopez and Josh Duhamel; a destination wedding where everyone's taken hostage, with Lenny Kravitz in a small role. Screwball energy, Amanda's mom approved. Counts.
Lopez direct-to-Peacock with Owen Wilson, who holds up a 'Marry Me' sign at her concert. Neither host finished it; eligible anyway. Notable as the first movie Yossi's two-day-old son ever 'watched.'
Cameron Diaz's return alongside Jamie Foxx: retired CIA couple, exposed cover, a teen daughter, and Glenn Close doing an accent. A two-hander that tips garbage-women because it's really about whether Diaz can be mom and spy at once. Heavily watched, per the hosts.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Weighed and ruled out of the canon May DecemberTicket to ParadiseThe Old GuardBird BoxAtlasThe MotherG20
Touchstones and tangents Sleepless in SeattleThe Devil Wears PradaMorning GlorySweet Home AlabamaThe HolidayPretty WomanThe Truman ShowHot FrostyNightbitchUnicorn StoreFreshBabygirlTrainwreckI Feel Pretty
The J.Lo back catalog Out of SightSelenaMaid in ManhattanThe Wedding PlannerThe Cell
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV Big Little LiesThe UndoingThe Perfect CoupleGinny & GeorgiaYou're the WorstLife & BethGrey's AnatomyThe PitThe StudioRed Table Talk
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