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'The Avengers' | Marvel Month

April 5, 2019/ 63 min/ Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan

The second Marvel Month installment. Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan revisit Joss Whedon's 2012 team-up, working through the deconstructionist streak in Whedon's writing, the eight scenes of relationship-building the movie is actually made of, and the post-9/11 anxieties baked into a 40-minute battle for New York.

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Marvel Month: 'The Avengers'installment two

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The Avengers 2012

Chris Ryan's pick, and the movie that tested whether solo album, solo album, group album could actually work. Sean argues Joss Whedon is a deconstructionist, better at analyzing a genre than escalating it, and that the film is really eight scenes long, mostly gatherings where six characters work out their relationships to one another rather than a plot moving forward. Whedon wrote a full Braveheart-style monologue for every character, then cut most of them down into one-liners ('Bunch up, Legolas'); the meta-comedy ('What, this, Shakespeare in the park?') and Natasha Romanoff, the character Whedon plainly likes writing the most, are the high points. The 40-minute battle for New York is where both hosts get less generous rewatching it: a post-9/11 city-destruction metaphor the movie can't quite hold, fought against faceless Chitauri nobody has any reason to care about, though Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye gets singled out as the single biggest waste of an actor in the whole MCU. $623 million domestic, $1.5 billion worldwide, 143 minutes, 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, an A+ CinemaScore, and the first Disney-distributed Marvel movie. Agent Coulson's death supplies the one real emotional stake; the two stingers, the Thanos reveal and the shawarma scene, set the template for everything the MCU has done with a credits sequence since.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Elsewhere in the MCU Iron ManIron Man 2Iron Man 3The Incredible HulkThorCaptain America: The First AvengerCaptain America: The Winter SoldierCaptain America: Civil WarAvengers: Age of UltronAvengers: Infinity WarAvengers: EndgameAnt-ManAnt-Man and the WaspDoctor StrangeGuardians of the GalaxySpider-Man: HomecomingBlack PantherCaptain MarvelThor: RagnarokEternals

Whedon's writing credits SerenityToy StoryAlien ResurrectionThe Cabin in the WoodsMuch Ado About Nothing

Touchstones Whedon cited as influences Black Hawk DownDr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the BombThe AbyssHis Girl Friday

Other directors' post-MCU careers Justice LeagueJojo RabbitKnives OutStar Wars: The Last JediSafety Not GuaranteedJurassic World

In passing ZodiacThe Hurt LockerThe TownMission: Impossible - Ghost ProtocolThe Pickup ArtistWalkaboutArrivalReservoir DogsThe Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th DimensionThe Parallax View

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Killing EveGame of ThronesBuffy the Vampire SlayerFireflyAgents of S.H.I.E.L.D.Beverly Hills, 90210

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