Uncharted 2022
The new Tom Holland/Mark Wahlberg video-game adaptation that kicked off the conversation — Sean calls it a relic of an older kind of movie stardom.
The Big Picture · Discussion · Hall of Fame
February 17, 2022/ 80 min/ Sean Fennessy · Shea Serrano
Uncharted has Sean wondering what an action hero even is anymore, so he calls in Shea Serrano to build a Hall of Fame for the post-Schwarzenegger era. Ten spots, two hosts, a lot of casualties.
107 films across 13 segments.
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Uncharted and the state of action moviesthe framing question
The new Tom Holland/Mark Wahlberg video-game adaptation that kicked off the conversation — Sean calls it a relic of an older kind of movie stardom.
Shea's example of the old model failing: a movie built to be the biggest thing on the planet that barely registered. He liked it in the moment and forgot it in seven minutes.
The counter-example — a smaller, more potent Netflix action movie that fans actively sought out, unlike Red Notice.
Are superhero movies action movies?Sean and Shea agree to disagree
Sean's test case for the genre line — a grounded, alien-free Batman movie that Shea still wouldn't call an action film, since 'we have watched Batman fight aliens' elsewhere.
Iko Uwaisthe first lock
The credibility voucher — Shea's shorthand for movie-nerd coolness, the equivalent of name-dropping MF DOOM to a rap fan.
The kitchen fight scene Shea cites as an instant-friendship test.
The G.I. Joe spinoff where Uwais plays Hard Master and barely gets to fight — Shea's recurring complaint about how Hollywood wastes him.
Another example of the waste: he's handcuffed to a hospital bed for the big fight scene, chopped into a hundred quick cuts instead of let loose.
New on Netflix that week. Sean calls it fun, not up to Raid standards.
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnsonthe volume argument
One of the cherry-picked best-of titles Sean cites for his top-level case.
Another of the pre-Fast best-of picks.
Called an all-time great and the closest thing Johnson has to a signature, career-defining movie — though it's the fifth film in a franchise he joined late.
A family favorite in Shea's house, Friday movie-night material.
The start of Johnson's five-movies-in-one-year stretch. Shea calls it a nifty little crime thriller.
Thumbs down from both hosts.
The controversial one. Both hosts like it.
Part of the 2013 run.
The direct-to-video entry from that same stretch that neither host has seen.
Sean saw it alone in an LA theater and clocked the moment Johnson actually tries to act — the helicopter scene with his ex-wife — and how the room just waited for the next set piece instead of feeling anything.
Called funny, not good.
Bad, per both hosts.
Also bad — 'they ran out of stuff for you to fight... so he fought a building.'
Not great, but Sean likes the bit where he yanks a helicopter out of the sky with a chain.
Jason Stathamin almost purely on Crank
One of his Guy Ritchie credits.
Called a big one for him.
The franchise that anchors his case.
Shea's headline argument for inclusion.
'The most Statham movie that's ever been,' per Shea.
Named as part of his resume.
A favorite pairing with Ben Foster, per Sean.
One of his attempts at a franchise lead.
Called hilarious as an over-eager spy.
Sean says it's one of the only movies he's wanted to walk out of; still went and paid for the IMAX upgrade for his family.
Referenced as another Guy Ritchie collaboration — the score does more work than the movie, per Sean.
Also part of his resume, alongside Johnson's.
Cited in passing as part of his action pedigree.
Charlize Theron'fight confidence,' the term Shea coins for her
Flagged by Sean as an early, less-successful example of her doing physical work.
Where she first proved she could do the wire work, per Shea — though Sean flags it as arguably a superhero movie.
The fight with Tom Hardy that convinced Shea she was for real.
The hotel fight scene both hosts cite as her clearest action-star case.
Liam Neesonthe flashpoint for the whole 'older guy with a particular set of skills' era
The movie that made 'Liam Neeson action star' a sentence people said. Not a great fighter, per Shea, but carries scenes on pure gravity.
Called one of his best, alongside Taken.
Sean's favorite of the run — the one on the plane.
His then-new release, noted as apparently not very good.
Michael Jai Whiteauto-green, per Shea
Cited as proof he can do the superhero thing too.
His scene became a meme, per Shea — mentioned as evidence of his reach beyond niche action.
The role that revealed the comedic range nobody knew he had.
The one Shea says people need to watch before they mock this pick.
Named as one of his spotty-but-reliable direct-to-video run — White is top-billed in this sequel.
Another entry in that same run.
A sequel Sean didn't know existed, and White wasn't even the original lead.
Tony Jaain on the strength of Ong-Bak alone
The signature franchise Shea says is enough by itself.
His U.S. breakout, fighting Paul Walker on a bus.
Part of his run of American productions after Furious 7.
Also cited from that stretch.
Noted as barely released stateside but the highest-grossing R-rated movie in Chinese box-office history, at roughly $700 million.
Watched by Sean with his youngest son; both hosts call it not great.
Michelle Rodriguezswapped in for Vin Diesel — 'she does what he does, but better'
Donnie YenShea's personal favorite of the group
The series Shea calls 'so good,' and the source of the rapid-punch move he nicknames the Gatling gun.
Both hosts like how the film leans into his calm, blind-warrior stillness rather than flashy choreography.
Matt Damonthe last spot, and the only white American on the final list
The handheld, fast-camera style Sean credits as a genuine marking moment for the genre — the reason Shea ultimately can't leave him off.
The near missesargued for, then cut
Christian Bale's case for inclusion, and Shea's exhibit A against him — 'you look like you've never held a weapon.' Bale is out.
Bale's western credential, conceded as great but not action.
Sean's counter-argument for Bale, though Shea notes the trailer's iconic shot went to Matthew McConaughey instead.
Shea's joke nomination for Scarlett Johansson before making a real case for her. She's out.
Cited as part of Johansson's actual action filmography.
Sean's pick for her — Shea says he'd 'karate kick him through the screen' for suggesting it. He doesn't like it.
Sean's case for Robert Downey Jr.; Shea says John Cusack would've been better in the role. RDJ is out.
Downey Jr.'s stronger case, but Sean notes he'd need more than two of them.
Sean's last, failed pitch for Downey Jr. — 'the only movie that ever made me dislike animals.'
Part of Angelina Jolie's case for inclusion.
Also cited for Jolie.
Called fitting, since the whole episode started with Uncharted.
Noted along with Charlize Theron's Fury Road as the two hosts trade a bit about actresses with dreadlocks in movies.
Jolie's recent superhero credit — both hosts admit they didn't fully understand the movie, but liked her fight sequence.
Hugh Jackman's action case. Shea has watched the commentary track repeatedly but hasn't seen the actual movie.
Called underrated by Sean, but not enough on its own.
Ryan Reynolds's grittier credit, opposite Denzel Washington.
Called Reynolds's best lane by Sean.
Sean's family liked it; Shea calls it terrible.
Daniel Craig's non-Bond action credit, called not super successful but fun.
Named as one of Craig's dramas with action elements, not a true action movie.
Also cited in that category for Craig, who's out despite a 'soft yes.'
Gal Gadot's poorly received new release, cited as a sign 'the bloom is off the rose' for her.
Cited as an actual action role for Gadot, pre-Wonder Woman.
Also cited for Gadot's pre-superhero action work.
Chris Hemsworth's strongest action credit, called 'a perfect example' — but not enough on its own. He's out for now.
Hemsworth as a physically imposing hacker.
Noted as Hemsworth playing Kirk's father.
One of the three upcoming Hemsworth films the hosts say could tip him into the Hall next time.
The sequel both hosts are looking forward to.
The Mad Max prequel, then upcoming, cited as Hemsworth's biggest swing yet.
Zhang Ziyi's headline credit, deemed a launch-year borderline case for the 2000 cutoff.
Also cited for Zhang Ziyi.
Also cited for Zhang Ziyi.
Also cited for Zhang Ziyi, who ultimately doesn't make the final ten.
Scott Adkins's breakout as the heavy opposite Michael Jai White — the movie that got him his own spinoff.
Sean's first exposure to Adkins, alongside Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren.
Adkins's fight scene opposite Jet Li that Sean sought out afterward.
Vin Diesel's cited credit, before he's bumped from the list in favor of Michelle Rodriguez.
Also cited for Diesel.
Diesel's voice role, cited in passing.
Also cited for Diesel.
Milla Jovovich's signature franchise, called dependable B-grade action. She's out.
Also cited for Jovovich.
Also cited for Jovovich, who is married to director Paul W.S. Anderson.
Also mentioned raised along the way
The pre-2000s stars, ruled ineligible from the jump Point BreakThe MatrixSpeedJohn Wick
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV Wu Assassins
Unreleased Mortal Kombat (leaked fan test footage with Michael Jai White as Jax, never made)
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