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The 2025 Movie Star Rankings: 35 Over 35. Plus: Nicolas Cage!

May 6, 2025/ 132 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda rebuild the 35-over-35 movie-star ranking, from Julia Roberts to Leonardo DiCaprio, after a review of Another Simple Favor. Then Sean talks to Nicolas Cage about The Surfer.

177 films across 5 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

The state of the industrythe Trump movie tariff and a windowing gripe

Highest 2 Lowest poster

Highest 2 Lowest 2025

Spike Lee's fifth with Denzel, an Apple/A24 remake of Kurosawa; opens in theaters August 22, on Apple TV+ two weeks later, which is what set Sean off.

Inside Man poster

Inside Man 2006

Denzel's last crime drama with Spike Lee; $185M.

Parasite poster

Parasite 2019

Part of the global-cinema wave the tariff talk ignores.

The Instigators poster

The Instigators 2024

The Apple dump that made Amanda nervous about Highest 2 Lowest.

The Gorge poster

The Gorge 2025

Another Apple straight-to-streaming release Sean is annoyed by.

Another Simple FavorPaul Feig's straight-to-streaming sequel

Another Simple Favor poster

Another Simple Favor 2025

The peg for the whole episode: two 35-over-35 stars, neither of whom made the list. Sean thought it was bad, Amanda enjoyed the first 20 minutes of pure Kendrick-Lively rapport before it went broad.

A Simple Favor poster

A Simple Favor 2018

The original, which made $97M in theaters and had a toxic curiosity this sequel trades for Dirty Rotten Scoundrels farce.

It Ends with Us poster

It Ends with Us 2024

Part of Blake Lively's recent run and her image problem; Sean finds her better as a villain than as someone sympathetic.

The Town poster

The Town 2010

Where Lively is a real asshole, i.e. her best mode.

Bridesmaids poster

Bridesmaids 2011

Feig's real-comedy peak that Amanda wishes he'd return to.

The Heat poster

The Heat 2013

Another Feig theatrical comedy.

The Accountant poster

The Accountant 2016

Amanda's example of Anna Kendrick's 'why are you here' frequency.

IF poster

IF 2024

Lively's voice work; also Krasinski's directorial effort, mentioned repeatedly later.

Toughest cuts and the Materialist testwho missed, and the three stars riding on one movie

Amsterdam poster

Amsterdam 2022

Bale; a disaster that made no money, orders of magnitude worse than a Hemsworth flop.

Extraction poster

Extraction 2020

Chris Hemsworth (Amanda's toughest cut): huge on Netflix, but never a draw outside a franchise.

Crime 101 poster

Crime 101 2026

Hemsworth, Halle Berry, Barry Keoghan, Mark Ruffalo; a Michael Mann-ish crime movie, his next test.

Nope poster

Nope 2022

Daniel Kaluuya's last leading role; where has he been?

The Lost City poster

The Lost City 2022

Sandra Bullock's last leading role; $200M, then she stopped taking parts.

The Fabelmans poster

The Fabelmans 2022

Seth Rogen as a critical character, not the lead.

IF poster

IF 2024

John Krasinski wrote, directed, and played the creepy father; voice/support doesn't count.

Ballerina poster

Ballerina 2025

Ana de Armas: not out yet, so not eligible.

Queer poster

Queer 2024

Craig's snub, which Sean reads as a stature demerit.

Monkey Man poster

Monkey Man 2024

Dev Patel: a swing Sean liked, but not there yet.

Song Sung Blue poster

Song Sung Blue 2025

Hugh Jackman, a sneaky awards contender at year's end.

Road House poster

Road House 2024

Jake Gyllenhaal, fallen back into streaming movies and TV.

Madame Web poster

Madame Web 2024

Dakota Johnson, coming off a tough stretch; a Materialist-test star.

Materialists poster

Materialists 2025

Out in a month; Dakota Johnson, Chris Evans, and Pedro Pascal are all off the list pending it.

Eddington poster

Eddington 2025

Pedro Pascal's Ari Aster movie; part of the loaded slate that still isn't enough for Sean yet.

The countdown: No. 35 to No. 135 movie stars, all over 35

After the Hunt poster

After the Hunt 2025

No. 35 Julia Roberts: the Luca Guadagnino campus drama keeping her eligible, maybe an Oscar play.

The Odyssey poster

The Odyssey 2026

No. 33 Anne Hathaway: the most anticipated movie in the world, and how she got onto the list.

Mother Mary poster

Mother Mary 2026

No. 33 Anne Hathaway: David Lowery's A24 film, playing a pop star.

The Idea of You poster

The Idea of You 2024

No. 33 Anne Hathaway: Michael Showalter directed her last one.

Flowervale Street poster

Flowervale Street 2026

No. 33 Anne Hathaway: David Robert Mitchell, pushed 16 months, apparently has dinosaurs.

Maestro poster

Maestro 2023

No. 32 Bradley Cooper: a leading role, and a maniac's movie Sean loves.

Nightmare Alley poster

Nightmare Alley 2021

No. 32 Bradley Cooper: the other lead of the memorial 50-something slot.

Is This Thing On? poster

Is This Thing On? 2025

No. 32 Bradley Cooper: his next as director; whether he qualifies hinges on how big his role is.

Twisters poster

Twisters 2024

No. 30 Glen Powell: legitimate fame.

The Running Man poster

The Running Man 2025

No. 30 Glen Powell: the fall tentpole, plus the secretive J.J. Abrams movie.

Wicked poster

Wicked 2024

No. 29 Michelle Yeoh: a big star even if Sean thinks the performance stinks.

A Minecraft Movie poster

A Minecraft Movie 2025

No. 28 Jason Momoa: chicken jockey; the thing that makes his case.

The Fall Guy poster

The Fall Guy 2024

No. 28 Jason Momoa, amusingly, at the end.

Roofman poster

Roofman 2025

No. 27 Channing Tatum: Derek Cianfrance's return, based on the true story of a McDonald's robber hiding in a Toys R Us.

The Lost City poster

The Lost City 2022

No. 27 Channing Tatum: part of his tight comeback stretch.

G20 poster

G20 2025

No. 26 Viola Davis: the one Sean promised to watch and didn't.

Air poster

Air 2023

No. 26 Viola Davis: they made this list right after it last time, which flattered her ranking.

Uncut Gems poster

Uncut Gems 2019

No. 25 Adam Sandler: the high point before a semi-muted stretch.

Jay Kelly poster

Jay Kelly 2025

No. 25 Adam Sandler: the Noah Baumbach movie, number-two role, lots of Oscar buzz.

Die My Love poster

Die My Love 2025

No. 24 Jennifer Lawrence (a cheat, not 35 until August): the Lynne Ramsay film added to Cannes.

Causeway poster

Causeway 2022

No. 24 Jennifer Lawrence.

Oppenheimer poster

Oppenheimer 2023

No. 23 Emily Blunt: the Oscar nomination that tacks onto her ranking.

The Smashing Machine poster

The Smashing Machine 2025

No. 23 Emily Blunt: the A24 movie with The Rock, plus the Spielberg UFO movie, i.e. being knighted.

Here poster

Here 2024

No. 22 Tom Hanks: a performance Amanda loved.

Greyhound poster

Greyhound 2020

No. 22 Tom Hanks: a sequel is coming; nobody can recall the first.

Tár poster

Tár 2022

No. 21 Cate Blanchett: what they were coming off last time.

Black Bag poster

Black Bag 2025

No. 21 Cate Blanchett: doing a lot of work here.

Borderlands poster

Borderlands 2024

No. 21 Cate Blanchett: a fiasco, not her fault.

Avengers: Doomsday poster

Avengers: Doomsday 2026

No. 20 Robert Downey Jr.: back to Marvel, to Sean's mild dismay.

Ballerina poster

Ballerina 2025

No. 19 Keanu Reeves: brought in for reshoots to work the John Wick magic.

Good Fortune poster

Good Fortune 2025

No. 19 Keanu Reeves: an angel in the Aziz Ansari comedy.

Fast X poster

Fast X 2023

No. 18 Charlize Theron: the thin recent stretch that has Amanda begging her to make more movies.

Mercy poster

Mercy 2025

No. 17 Chris Pratt: a Minority Report-for-brain-injuries pitch, with Rebecca Ferguson; it looked entertaining.

Mickey 17 poster

Mickey 17 2025

No. 16 Robert Pattinson: not a huge hit, but Sean thinks people are too hard on it.

The Batman poster

The Batman 2022

No. 16 Robert Pattinson: he's Batman, Batman 2 pending.

The Drama poster

The Drama 2026

No. 16 Robert Pattinson: the A24 drama with Zendaya.

Barbie poster

Barbie 2023

No. 15 Margot Robbie: the phenomenon, Amanda's No. 2 of its year.

Babylon poster

Babylon 2022

No. 15 Margot Robbie: where she went from 'are we sure she's good' to mattering.

Wuthering Heights poster

Wuthering Heights 2026

No. 15 Margot Robbie: the Emerald Fennell one Sean is concerned about.

Napoleon poster

Napoleon 2023

No. 14 Joaquin Phoenix: didn't hit here, did well in Europe.

Eddington poster

Eddington 2025

No. 14 Joaquin Phoenix: the new Ari Aster.

A Minecraft Movie poster

A Minecraft Movie 2025

No. 13 Jack Black: a huge movie star, Minecraft plus Mario plus Kung Fu Panda plus Jumanji.

Anaconda poster

Anaconda 2025

No. 13 Jack Black: a tongue-in-cheek riff on the '90s original.

The Adam Project poster

The Adam Project 2022

No. 12 Ryan Reynolds: the Spielberg-esque sci-fi mode Sean can't stand.

Star Wars: Starfighter poster

Star Wars: Starfighter 2027

No. 11 Ryan Gosling: directed by Shawn Levy, and 'Star Wars' is the premium brand name.

The Fall Guy poster

The Fall Guy 2024

No. 11 Ryan Gosling: the more appealing of the two Ryans, per the hosts.

Air poster

Air 2023

No. 10 Matt Damon: 'pretty good,' but a movie about marketing.

The Odyssey poster

The Odyssey 2026

No. 10 Matt Damon: the vault-up, plus Oppenheimer.

The Rip poster

The Rip 2025

No. 10 Matt Damon: with Ben Affleck, whose mantle Matt is carrying.

The Smashing Machine poster

The Smashing Machine 2025

No. 9 Dwayne Johnson: 'is it The Rock's Oscar time?' after five stinkers in a row.

Moana 2 poster

Moana 2 2024

No. 9 Dwayne Johnson: amusing; a soundtrack Sean's warmed to.

Red One poster

Red One 2024

No. 9 Dwayne Johnson: part of the cold streak.

Emilia Pérez poster

Emilia Pérez 2024

No. 8 Zoe Saldana: what an Academy Award gets you, a big jump from 27.

Sinners poster

Sinners 2025

No. 7 Michael B. Jordan: he did it, just a movie star; a huge, cool movie heading past $300M.

The Thomas Crown Affair 2026

No. 7 Michael B. Jordan: his next, directing and starring, with Taylor Russell reportedly.

F1 poster

F1 2025

No. 6 Brad Pitt: a huge amount riding on it.

Wolfs poster

Wolfs 2024

No. 6 Brad Pitt: not great.

Black Widow poster

Black Widow 2021

No. 5 Scarlett Johansson: the Disney pay dispute era she's climbed out of.

Poor Things poster

Poor Things 2023

No. 4 Emma Stone: the second Oscar, one of four with Yorgos Lanthimos.

La La Land poster

La La Land 2016

No. 4 Emma Stone: 'the star of La La Land is niche,' Sean's rebuttal to himself.

Bugonia poster

Bugonia 2025

No. 4 Emma Stone: her fourth with Lanthimos, out this fall.

Highest 2 Lowest poster

Highest 2 Lowest 2025

No. 3 Denzel Washington, the only septuagenarian on the list; the Spike Lee movie coming soon.

Gladiator II poster

Gladiator II 2024

No. 3 Denzel Washington: the best part, by a margin.

Malcolm X poster

Malcolm X 1992

No. 3 Denzel Washington: Ben Affleck called it the greatest screen performance of all time.

One Battle After Another poster

One Battle After Another 2025

No. 1 Leonardo DiCaprio, up on vibes; the only person who could get PTA's movie made and released this way. A true box-office test.

In conversation

The Surfer poster
Nicolas Cage on

The Surfer 2024

Cage's new film with Lorcan Finnegan: an enigmatic, nonlinear story with a psychedelic streak. He talks about the prop rat, the punk-rock-Billy-Wilder 'eat it' scene, and choosing parts he feels he doesn't have to act.

The Swimmer poster
Nicolas Cage on

The Swimmer 1968

The strongest reference point; he heard Lancaster's voice in his head during one scene. Cheever's story is arguably more powerful than the movie.

Wake in Fright poster
Nicolas Cage on

Wake in Fright 1971

New to him; the writer and director brought it up as an Ozploitation touchstone.

Walkabout poster
Nicolas Cage on

Walkabout 1971

Nicolas Roeg; broke his heart as a child, an unrequited love story.

Picnic at Hanging Rock poster
Nicolas Cage on

Picnic at Hanging Rock 1975

Peter Weir; a bigger influence on him than the Ozploitation label.

Face/Off poster
Nicolas Cage on

Face/Off 1997

John Woo had him watch Bullet in the Head to show how far the performance could go.

Bullet in the Head poster
Nicolas Cage on

Bullet in the Head 1990

The Woo film whose operatic scale told Cage what Woo would let him do.

Hard Boiled poster
Nicolas Cage on

Hard Boiled 1992

The Woo classic Cage already knew.

The Killer poster
Nicolas Cage on

The Killer 1989

The other Woo classic he knew going in.

Matchstick Men poster
Nicolas Cage on

Matchstick Men 2003

Cage's pick for an underrated film of his; he chose it over Mystic River, and thinks it's one of Ridley Scott's best.

Mystic River poster
Nicolas Cage on

Mystic River 2003

The Clint Eastwood role (Robbins's part) he passed on for Matchstick Men.

Vampire's Kiss poster
Nicolas Cage on

Vampire's Kiss 1988

The self-referential lineage, taking on Dracula years later.

Dream Scenario poster
Nicolas Cage on

Dream Scenario 2023

Christopher Borgli saw Wild at Heart and knew that performance style would work here.

Wild at Heart poster
Nicolas Cage on

Wild at Heart 1990

The style younger filmmakers keep reintroducing; The Surfer has some of it.

Vivarium poster
Nicolas Cage on

Vivarium 2019

Cage saw Finnegan's film in the cinema and responded to it.

Sabrina poster
Nicolas Cage on

Sabrina 1954

The Billy Wilder 'eat it' bit he riffed on with ketchup.

Like Father, Like Son poster
Nicolas Cage on

Like Father, Like Son 2013

Cage's last-great pick: Kore-eda's swapped-at-birth drama, some of the best acting he's ever seen.

East of Eden poster
Nicolas Cage on

East of Eden 1955

James Dean; why he got into cinema in the first place.

Enter the Dragon poster
Nicolas Cage on

Enter the Dragon 1973

Bruce Lee moving everywhere: one pole of compelling screen presence.

Also mentioned raised along the way

In passing Déjà Vu2 GunsThe Equalizer 2The Light Between OceansThe Place Beyond the PinesLicorice PizzaThe Adjustment BureauMen in Black: InternationalGhostbustersSpiderheadExtraction 2The Old GuardMary Poppins ReturnsJungle CruisePain HustlersSonic the Hedgehog 3Star WarsDestroy All MonstersOcean's EightWarfareFly Me to the Moon

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Squid GameShogunThe Four SeasonsThe CurseThe SympathizerDisclaimerDying for SexSeveranceThe StudioNarcosGame of ThronesThe MandalorianThe Last of UsThe WireParks and RecreationThe EnglishYour Friends & NeighborsThe RehearsalWelcome to Wrexham

Podcasts and web 60 Songs That Explain the '90sThe RewatchablesGood Hang with Amy PoehlerChicken Shop DateThe Millennial Canon Bracket

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