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The 2013 Movie Draft. Plus: Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones!
October 30, 2020/ 105 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Chris Ryan
A No Time to Die/Apple detour opens into a snake draft of 2013 across six categories, then Sean and Amanda talk to Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones about On the Rocks.
52 films across 4 segments.
AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.
No Time to Die and the streaming questionApple's bid for the new Bond film
Casino Royale 2006
Cited in the Daniel Craig box-office rundown: $594 million worldwide.
Quantum of Solace 2008
$591 million worldwide, almost identical to Casino Royale.
Skyfall 2012
$1.1 billion worldwide, the high point of the Craig run.
Spectre 2015
Almost $900 million, the basis for the Broccolis' asking price.
Black Widow 2021
Named alongside Fast 9 and No Time to Die as a movie the public has known about for years.
F9 2021
Tenet 2020
The counterexample: tried the one-time theatrical event and it didn't work.
Wonder Woman 2017
Made over $400 million domestically; cited on the question of how much a sequel needs to clear.
Was 2013 an exceptional year for movies?
12 Years a Slave 2013
The Best Picture winner; how the year gets remembered.
Gravity 2013
American Hustle 2013
Frances Ha 2013
Cited as one of several arthouse films that year from new directors.
Inside Llewyn Davis 2013
Her 2013
Before Midnight 2013
Fruitvale Station 2013
Ryan Coogler's debut.
The Croods 2013
Brought up for Roger Deakins' visual-consultant work on the franchise.
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 2013
Listed among the year's biggest box-office titles.
Iron Man 3 2013
Despicable Me 2 2013
Man of Steel 2013
Monsters University 2013
Fast & Furious 6 2013
Only God Forgives 2013
Sean and Chris's own top-10-list story, told alongside Amanda's Wolf of Wall Street one.
The Place Beyond the Pines 2012
Cited as one of the 'decapitating movie stars / decline of American masculinity' pair with Only God Forgives.
The 2013 movie draft drafting the movies of 2013
Chris Ryan
Sequel
Iron Man 3 2013
His No. 1 overall pick, to loud objections from Sean and Amanda; a Shane Black-directed favorite and, he says, Downey's best performance in the role.
Drama
Inside Llewyn Davis 2013
Went in expecting a Coen ensemble romp and got one of the saddest movies he's seen; grown on him since.
Blockbuster
This Is the End 2013
A personal pick over a horror-category slot; calls it an overlooked comedy of its moment.
Comedy/Horror
You're Next 2013
Adam Wingard's home-invasion movie; the apex, per Chris and Sean, of the era's indie horror wave.
Wildcard
Prisoners 2013
One of his favorite Jake Gyllenhaal performances; a hit despite a bleak ending he doesn't fully endorse the politics of.
Animated/Foreign Language
Drug War 2013
Johnnie To's cop-and-gangster film, a late discovery; praises the shootout choreography.
Sean Fennessey
Blockbuster
The Wolf of Wall Street 2013
His favorite rewatch of the three of them; taken as a blockbuster since it cleared the $100 million bar.
Sequel
Before Midnight 2013
The third Linklater/Hawke/Delpy film; he's aged into Jesse's age since seeing it, which changed how it plays.
Drama
Gravity 2013
Picked for the theatrical experience above all; singles out the Bullock/Clooney separation sequence.
Comedy/Horror
The Conjuring 2013
Calls it one of the best horror movies of the decade and the start of its own franchise.
Wildcard
The Counselor 2013
Ridley Scott/Cormac McCarthy; a pick he'd been saving all draft. Cast includes Cameron Diaz, Bardem, Brad Pitt, Penelope Cruz, Michael Fassbender, Natalie Dormer.
Animated/Foreign Language
Blue Is the Warmest Color 2013
Nearly took The Wind Rises here but it was disqualified (2014 U.S. release); praises Adele Exarchopoulos and Lea Seydoux.
Amanda Dobbins
Drama
Her 2013
One of her favorite movies of the decade; calls out the sci-fi's light touch and the Spike Jonze production design.
Comedy/Horror
Frances Ha 2013
Slotted into comedy on the strength of the Puss in Boots line; a sentimental pick she says means a lot to Sean too.
Blockbuster
Captain Phillips 2013
A freestyle pick after her other blockbuster options were taken; remembers it as simply effective.
Animated/Foreign Language
Frozen 2013
Wildcard
Enough Said 2013
Nicole Holofcener; James Gandolfini's last role, with Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
Sequel
The Best Man Holiday 2013
A vivid Thanksgiving-with-her-father memory; a sequel arriving well after its original.
On the board, undrafted honorable mentions
12 Years a SlaveSide EffectsAmerican HustleNebraskaAll Is LostFruitvale StationThe PurgeThe HeatIdentity ThiefI Give It a YearWorld War ZThe Spectacular NowLone SurvivorAnchorman 2: The Legend ContinuesThe Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug
In conversation
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
On the Rocks 2020
Coppola's father-daughter buddy story, written around a friend's tale of spying on her husband alongside her own "Playboy dad." Shot in New York, wrapped just before the March 2020 shutdown, and released on Apple TV Plus with Bill Murray and Rashida Jones.
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
Lost in Translation 2003
Referenced for the Bill Murray casting story (the hotline/voicemail) and as a comparison point for On the Rocks' themes.
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
Marie Antoinette 2006
Cited in a question about the recurring extroverted-friend role in Coppola's films.
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
The Bling Ring 2013
Same question, re: Leslie Mann's character type.
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
Tootsie 1982
Coppola cites it among the glamorous-New York movies she grew up on and drew from for On the Rocks.
Sofia Coppola and Rashida Jones on
Seven Samurai 1954
Coppola's answer to the show's closing question, watched with her kids.
Also mentioned raised along the way
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Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV I May Destroy YouFargo
Video games FIFA World Cup Launch Edition
Ads Boar's HeadPepsiSam's Club
Books The Custom of the Country