Blues Brothers 2000 1998
Sean's real origin story: his uncle flew him to L.A. for his 16th birthday to attend the premiere and after-party, where he met Dan Aykroyd, John Goodman, and Joe Morton. The movie itself is 'quite quite quite a bad movie.'
The Big Picture · Discussion · Draft · Interview
October 12, 2021/ 126 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Chris Ryan
Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins, and Chris Ryan draft the movies of 1998 across six categories, then Sean talks to Fran Kranz about his directorial debut, Mass.
54 films across 4 segments.
AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.
1998, before the draftthe box office, the Oscars, and the mood of the year
Sean's real origin story: his uncle flew him to L.A. for his 16th birthday to attend the premiere and after-party, where he met Dan Aykroyd, John Goodman, and Joe Morton. The movie itself is 'quite quite quite a bad movie.'
No. 4 at the domestic box office this year.
No. 5 at the box office, grouped with The Wedding Singer as 'the Waterboy and the Wedding Singer double year.'
No. 6 at the box office.
No. 7 at the box office.
No. 8 at the box office, released the same year as its disaster-movie twin, Armageddon.
No. 9 at the box office; barely discussed all episode, and Sean calls it 'quite bad,' though it was marketed as a huge event.
No. 10 at the box office; Amanda saw it in theaters at 13 and cites it as one of the year's 'dog shit movies.'
The thinly veiled Bill Clinton campaign roman a clef, based on Joe Klein's anonymously published novel.
Amanda's example of a movie with 'politics underneath its fingernails.' Also gave Billy Bob Thornton a double Oscar nomination (adapted screenplay and supporting actor) the same year Armageddon made him briefly the most talked-about man in Hollywood.
Cited as prescient about the war on terror, years before 9/11.
What felt like a joke at the time, a movie spun off a TV show, is now the standard Hollywood model.
Amanda saw it in theaters at 13 and remembers being 'confused.'
Sean's joking dig at what 13-year-old Amanda should have been watching instead of Patch Adams.
Nick Nolte's Oscar-nominated performance; he lost, and per Chris, has still never won.
Ian McKellen's Oscar-nominated performance; also a loss, also still no Oscar.
The 1998 Movie Draft drafting 1998 movies
First overall pick and, he says, the movie he's seen and loved the most from this year: Jeff Bridges, John Turturro, Steve Buscemi, John Goodman.
Taken right out from under Sean, who had it queued for his next pick, prompting a whole bit about betrayal. Damon and Norton in a movie Chris calls 'imprinted on his soul.'
The other half of his 'double Damon' round. He calls the Normandy assault and the closing town battle some of the best action filmmaking he's ever seen.
Robert Rodriguez's alien-teachers riff, with peak Josh Hartnett and a loaded adult cast: Salma Hayek, Famke Janssen, Piper Laurie, Christopher McDonald, Jon Stewart, Robert Patrick.
Tony Scott's surveillance thriller with Will Smith and Gene Hackman; one of his favorite Scott films.
Hype Williams's only feature film, with DMX and Nas. Chris says he watched it on VHS loop in 1999 and considers it a formative document of that era of rap.
Taken after Chris and Amanda's opening surprises left him without a plan; his third or fourth favorite movie of the year.
Watched at 16; Terry Gilliam's Hunter S. Thompson adaptation with Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro, back when Depp's Thompson fixation was still just a fun fact.
Malick's disorienting, poetic comeback after two decades away from filmmaking, picked over American History X and Affliction. Not Sean's favorite Malick, but a confirmation of his new, more impressionistic style.
A pure spite pick after Rounders got sniped: a movie Sean has never actually seen, drafted purely off Chris Ryan's years of evangelizing for it. John Frankenheimer, De Niro, Jean Reno, Natascha McElhone.
Taken here to free up comedy for later picks. Remembered as an event movie, with the earlobe and zipper gags that had audiences 'rolling in the aisles.'
John McNaughton's sweaty Miami-set noir with Neve Campbell, Denise Richards, Matt Dillon, Kevin Bacon, and Bill Murray; seen by Sean at 16.
Seen in theaters at 13; Peter Weir's surveillance parable that both hosts credit with predicting a lot about reality TV and being watched.
Her first Wes Anderson movie, shown to her early on by a college friend from Houston, where it was filmed. 'Made me realize that not all movies have to be the same.'
The Best Picture upset over Saving Private Ryan, powered by a notorious Harvey Weinstein campaign; Amanda still likes the movie despite that history, and despite Judi Dench winning Supporting Actress for under eight minutes of screen time.
Her first Michael Bay movie, seen at 13; she says she wept and calls it a crash course in romance, death, oil drilling, and Aerosmith all at once.
The movie that inspired the whole 1998 draft in the first place. Nora Ephron's Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan rom-com, her most-rewatched movie ever.
Gwyneth Paltrow's other big role this year, and what Amanda calls 'the number one bad breakup haircut of all time.'
On the board, undrafted honorable mentions
Halloween H20: 20 Years LaterSpice WorldEver AfterVelvet GoldmineHe Got GameMulanPleasantvilleThe Wedding SingerThe Opposite of SexYour Friends & NeighborsBuffalo '66Babe: Pig in the CityA Night at the RoxburyDirty WorkStepmomPlaying by HeartLethal Weapon 4The Replacement KillersThe NegotiatorPalmettoElizabethHow Stella Got Her Groove BackSmall SoldiersMeet Joe BlackBeloved
Movies we forgot to draftpost-draft regrets and shoutouts
John Boorman's film with an 'incredible' Brendan Gleeson performance, brought up in the same breath as the crew's regret over forgetting Gleeson on their Departed episode.
Warren Beatty's satire about a politician who becomes, in Sean's telling, basically Bernie Sanders. Bold racial politics that the hosts agree 'doesn't land the plane,' but a good soundtrack (including 'Ghetto Superstar').
Barbet Schroeder thriller: a cop (Michael Keaton) needs a bone-marrow donor for his son, and the only match is a convicted murderer (Andy Garcia). Chris reads the logline as an argument for bringing back this kind of B-movie premise.
One of Chris's other Oscar Nominee finalists, alongside Affliction. An earnest, on-the-nose telling of race and family with a famously complicated production between director Tony Kaye and Edward Norton.
Alfonso Cuaron's modern-dress adaptation with Ethan Hawke; the hosts agree the movie itself is mediocre but remember the soundtrack fondly (Grateful Dead, Chris Cornell, Tori Amos, Pulp, Iggy Pop, and a solo Scott Weiland deep cut).
Nancy Meyers's directorial debut and Lindsay Lohan's breakout; Amanda tried to copy Lohan's haircut from it.
John Carpenter's film, with James Woods and Daniel Baldwin; Sean rewatched it recently and calls it delightful.
Chris says he almost drafted this in comedy over Big Lebowski.
Christian Slater and Morgan Freeman rob a bank during a flood; the hosts hold it up as an example of a mid-budget B-movie premise Hollywood doesn't make anymore.
Chris says he almost took this in Oscar Nominee; Martin Campbell's first film after GoldenEye, with Antonio Banderas.
Robert Benton's neo-noir with Paul Newman, Susan Sarandon, and Gene Hackman; Chris calls it 'quite good.' Not the vampire movie.
Brought up in passing near the end of the recap; Amanda says she's 'not a fan.'
Fran Kranz on Masshis debut as writer-director
His debut as writer-director: two couples meet years after a school shooting that connects their families, in a single church meeting room. He wrote it after his own daughter was born and the Parkland shooting sent him into two years of reading about mass shootings. He insisted on no flashbacks or cutaways, so the conversation plays out close to real time.
A touchstone for how Mass should look and feel: Ken Loach's unshowy realism, where 'you don't feel him as a director.'
Not a direct comparison to Mass, but its cinematographer, Robbie Ryan (who also shot I, Daniel Blake), was a reference point for the film's handheld back half.
The one-location, mostly-two-people conversation movie he kept returning to while writing.
Its opening shot (stable on the hood of a car, then rising into extended handheld as Mahershala Ali gets out) was the direct model for the moment Mass shifts from static wide shots into handheld.
Ozu's formal wide shots and doorway framing shaped his decision to withhold the film's first close-up until Martha Plimpton's character speaks.
His 'last great thing' seen: a rarely discussed Ken Loach period piece about a boy roaming 19th-century England with a Frenchman who survived his own hanging.
His other recent favorite: the genre-bending Korean film he praises for never losing 'truthful human emotion' amid the chaos.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing TitanicGood Will HuntingBounceTommy BoyThe Last DuelRangoAll the Pretty Horses
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