The Big Picture · Interview
November 21, 2018/ 42 min/ Sean Fennessey
Steven Caple Jr. on inheriting the Rocky and Creed franchises, rebuilding the Drago family from one frame in Rocky IV, and directing Sylvester Stallone as Sylvester Stallone.
9 films across 1 segment.
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Steven Caple Jr. on Creed II
The film he's here to discuss: Adonis Creed, now champion and mentored by Rocky Balboa, against Ivan Drago's son Victor. He shot 52 days against 18 on his debut, his first time working with visual effects. The cast kept an on-set 'cheese meter' to gauge how far a scene could lean into nostalgia before it tipped over.
Ryan Coogler's original, and the weight he had to reckon with before starting: he rewatched it first to pin down what moved him, then built forward from there instead of reinventing it.
The first Rocky movie he ever saw, at six years old. Not, he admits, the ideal entry point. He worked backward to the original afterward.
His favorite of the franchise. He credits Stallone's unglamorous, stuttering lead performance for making him feel connected to the character at all.
Ivan Drago's only human moment: head down in the corner after Rocky's ring speech, unsure his own country is still behind him. Caple built Creed II's entire Drago backstory off that one image.
His feature debut: 18 days of shooting, no permits, skateboarding scenes shot with just him, a cameraman, and the leads. The yardstick he keeps returning to for how much bigger Creed II's 52-day shoot and 60-person department meetings got.
His pick for the last great thing he'd seen. He points to the simplicity and the sound design; character work lands before the scares do.
His comparison point: the last horror movie he thought blended suspense mechanics with real character development this well.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing Black PantherCliffhangerDemolition ManRaging BullThor: RagnarokAvengers: Infinity WarCollateralRocky IIRocky III
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