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‘Spiderhead’ and the Five Netflix Movies That Matter
June 17, 2022/ 85 min/ Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan
Sean and Chris Ryan revisit a 2021 movie auction, review Joseph Kosinski's 'Spiderhead,' and take stock of Netflix's original-movie era. Then, Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick on adapting George Saunders and ten years of false starts.
41 films across 5 segments.
AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.
The 2021 movie auction, revisited Chris Ryan's picks, one by one
Spiderhead 2022
Bought sight-unseen for $80 as 'Escape From Spider-Head' — the reason for this episode.
Venom: Let There Be Carnage 2021
$50, and Sean is fairly sure Chris still hasn't seen it.
Spider-Man: No Way Home 2021
$230 — called it a bargain, given it was the movie sensation of late 2021.
Red, White and Water
Roughly $490 — and it still doesn't have a release date, so the auction remains technically unresolved.
'Spiderhead'an adaptation of George Saunders's short story
Spiderhead 2022
Joseph Kosinski directs Miles Teller and Jurnee Smollett as convicts volunteering for emotion-altering drug trials run by Chris Hemsworth's prison overseer. Both call it a solid, well-crafted 'B-plus movie' — Sean compares its themes of soft workplace control to Severance, Chris flags a soft-rock-over-harrowing-imagery trick that goes back to Reservoir Dogs, and both think Hemsworth, playing a motor-mouthed tech villain, is doing the real heavy lifting.
Is Netflix's original-movie business in trouble?the 'reliable middle' and the quality problem
Bright 2017
The moment things really soured, per Chris — 'everything about this is off.'
The Cloverfield Paradox 2018
Dropped right after the Super Bowl; the other marker of the shift into buying up studio blockbusters-in-waiting.
Bird Box 2018
Hundreds of millions watched it and it became a meme, but neither host thinks anyone would call it good.
Red Notice 2021
Sean's guess: of the 350 million who watched it, fewer than 50 million actually thought it was good.
The Adam Project 2022
Army of the Dead 2021
6 Underground 2019
Both hosts genuinely like it — critically reviled, but a self-aware Michael Bay pastiche that works for them.
The Old Guard 2020
Extraction 2020
A solid Chris Hemsworth action movie, if not exactly rewatchables material.
The good stuff Netflix doesn't get enough credit fora three-month run in 2017 they can't seem to repeat
Triple Frontier 2019
A years-in-development-hell project they actually got made — "we love Triple Frontier here."
The Lost Daughter 2021
A literary adaptation from a first-time filmmaker (Maggie Gyllenhaal) that Chris calls terrific.
Okja 2017
Netflix was early on Bong Joon Ho — bittersweet in hindsight once he won the Oscar for Parasite instead.
The Irishman 2019
Roma 2018
Marriage Story 2019
White Noise 2022
Noah Baumbach's $140 million adaptation — flagged as possibly the last of these giant vanity-project checks Netflix writes.
The Two Popes 2019
Don't Look Up 2021
Mudbound 2017
Da 5 Bloods 2020
I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore 2017
Part of the 2017 stretch: two Macon Blair movies, a Charlie McDowell film, and Win It All inside three months.
Small Crimes 2017
Macon Blair wrote it.
The Discovery 2017
Charlie McDowell's vaguely sci-fi entry from that same 2017 run.
Win It All 2017
A movie both hosts love.
War Machine 2017
The Gentlemen 2020
Still floating in and out of Netflix's top 10 years later — Chris thinks people mistake it for a new Guy Ritchie movie made for the service.
El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie 2019
Cited as a model for reviving old IP as a single movie instead of a new season.
Blonde 2022
Andrew Dominik's next, due out in a few months — both hosts are genuinely excited.
In conversationadapting George Saunders, and ten years of stops and starts
Spiderhead 2022
Optioned from Condé Nast in June 2012; the pair originally wrote it on spec intending to direct it themselves before Deadpool took over their lives. Kosinski eventually came aboard and sold it to Netflix.
Deadpool 2016
Took six years to get made; they cite the freeway ambush scene as an example of how precisely they script action, down to each bullet.
Deadpool 2 2018
Home of the Davis Love III joke Reese kept fighting to keep in the script.
Zombieland 2009
Their first collaboration; led to being pitched every zombie/vampire/werewolf script in town afterward.
G.I. Joe: Retaliation 2013
The Himalayas rope sequence, written with zero dialogue, was their most fun action sequence to write.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing The IslandReservoir DogsTop Gun: MaverickOnly the BraveThe Spectacular NowProject XForgetting Sarah MarshallThe Mummy
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
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