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So … ‘Tenet’? Plus: Top Five Movies About Making Movies

June 30, 2020/ 80 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Tenet slides its release date again, three straight-to-VOD weekend releases underwhelm, a send-off for Joel Schumacher, and the hosts finally deliver their dueling top-five lists of movies about making movies.

30 films across 5 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Three new releases, none of them greatIrresistible, Eurovision Song Contest, My Spy

Irresistible poster

Irresistible 2020

Jon Stewart's small-town political satire, starring Steve Carell and Rose Byrne. Both hosts call it toothless — a movie about the 2016 election made with 2006 thinking.

My Spy poster

My Spy 2020

Dave Bautista's action-comedy, bumped from a theatrical STX release to Amazon Prime.

Doctor Sleep's HBO Max director's cutthe three-hour version

Doctor Sleep poster

Doctor Sleep 2019

Sean is partway through the extended cut and finds it better than the theatrical release — and thinks Rebecca Ferguson's Rose the Hat deserved a movie of her own.

Remembering Joel Schumacher1939–2020

Sleeper poster

Sleeper 1973

Schumacher designed the handmade-looking science-fiction costumes early in his career, before he directed.

The Wiz poster

The Wiz 1978

Schumacher wrote the screenplay; Sidney Lumet directed.

Car Wash poster

Car Wash 1976

Schumacher-written ensemble comedy.

Sparkle poster

Sparkle 1976

Schumacher-written; about an aspiring singer.

St. Elmo's Fire poster

St. Elmo's Fire 1985

Brat Pack touchstone, part of the run Amanda grew up on.

The Lost Boys poster

The Lost Boys 1987

Late-80s touchpoint Amanda credits Gilbert Cruz with introducing her to.

Flatliners poster

Flatliners 1990

The third of the Brat Pack-era trio, alongside St. Elmo's Fire and The Lost Boys.

Falling Down poster

Falling Down 1993

Michael Douglas as a man unraveling through Los Angeles — tone-deaf and compelling in equal measure, per Sean.

The Client poster

The Client 1994

One of Sean's two favorite John Grisham adaptations Schumacher directed.

Batman & Robin poster

Batman & Robin 1997

The reputation-definer. Amanda, 12 when it came out, calls it maybe the first superhero movie she ever saw.

Tigerland poster

Tigerland 2000

Part of Schumacher's run of glamorous, dark-and-dingy dramas.

Sean's top five movies about making moviesbest to worst

Boogie Nights poster
No. 1

Boogie Nights 1997

No. 1 — Paul Thomas Anderson's second feature, seen through Dirk Diggler's rise. Sean saw it at 15 and calls it one for the ages.

The Player poster
No. 2

The Player 1992

No. 2 — Robert Altman's comeback, scripted by Michael Tolkin, seen through a villainized studio executive. Sean and Amanda picked it independently.

Barton Fink poster
No. 3

Barton Fink 1991

No. 3 — the Coens' tale of a playwright sent to write a wrestling picture in Hollywood, and losing his mind in the process.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? poster
No. 4

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? 1988

No. 4 — Robert Zemeckis's cartoon-and-live-action hybrid. Sean pushes back hard on the idea it hasn't aged well.

The Bad and the Beautiful poster
No. 5

The Bad and the Beautiful 1952

No. 5 — Vincente Minnelli's ruthless portrait of a producer, played by Kirk Douglas. Sean says it was invoked a lot when Harvey Weinstein's history came out.

Amanda's top five movies about making moviesbest to worst

Singin' in the Rain poster
No. 1

Singin' in the Rain 1952

No. 1 — Gene Kelly and Stanley Donen's musical about Hollywood's transition from silent films to talkies. Amanda's portal into old Hollywood as a teenager.

The Player poster
No. 2

The Player 1992

No. 2 — Amanda's independent pick of the same film Sean chose at the same spot.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood poster
No. 3

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 2019

No. 3 — Quentin Tarantino's most sentimental film, per Amanda, about the almost-famous getting a second chance.

Adaptation poster
No. 4

Adaptation 2002

No. 4 — Spike Jonze directing Charlie Kaufman's screenplay about adapting Susan Orlean's The Orchid Thief. Amanda calls it near-impossible for anyone but Kaufman to pull off.

Notting Hill poster
No. 5

Notting Hill 1999

No. 5 — Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant, written by Richard Curtis. Amanda's pick for how it captures 90s movie stardom, nudity clauses and all.

Also mentioned raised along the way

In passing TenetMulanThe King of Staten IslandCluelessBatmanThe FirmBack to the Future

Ruled out by the show's own ground rules Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's ApocalypseBurden of DreamsLost in La ManchaChaplin

European arthouse Sean considered instead ContemptDay for Night

Recent examples of the genre Dolemite Is My NamePain and Glory

Runners-up left off the lists SomewhereHail, Caesar!All About EveReal LifeState and MainThe Aviator

Teased for the upcoming 2020-so-far episode Trolls World TourScoob!DolittleBirds of PreyNatalie Wood: What Remains Behind

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