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Darren Aronofsky's film, David's pick for the best wrestling movie ever made. Not to be confused with the 1974 movie of the same name starring Verne Gagne, which comes up only in passing.
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February 22, 2019/ 54 min/ Sean Fennessey
Sean and David Shoemaker survey wrestling movies good and bad, then Stephen Merchant explains how he turned a WWE documentary into 'Fighting With My Family.'
31 films across 3 segments.
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The best (and weirdest) wrestling movieswith David Shoemaker
Darren Aronofsky's film, David's pick for the best wrestling movie ever made. Not to be confused with the 1974 movie of the same name starring Verne Gagne, which comes up only in passing.
What David would actually show his kids to explain wrestling, even though it wouldn't crack his list.
Hulk Hogan; David calls it "cocaine riddled and insane" in the best way.
Debated as a wrestling movie on the strength of Hogan's Thunderlips cameo.
The cautionary example for what happens when a movie tries to partner with a real promotion, also tangled up with David Arquette's actual WCW title reign.
Roddy Piper and Dirk Benedict; "the classic of the genre" to David, playing it dumb but unimpeachably sincere.
Stallone's directorial debut, made right after Rocky, set in a fictionalized 1940s Lower East Side wrestling scene. Terry Funk appears.
A South Korean film David says nails the fantasy of becoming a wrestler and then having to actually wrestle for real.
One of the odder finds David dug up researching wrestling movies.
Arthur Lake and Dale Evans; a curiosity from the era.
Jules Dassin's noir, made between The Naked City and Rififi, built around one of the best wrestling scenes in any movie, with Richard Widmark, Gene Tierney, and Stanislaus Zbyszko.
The best wrestling documentarieswith David Shoemaker
The one that hit David hardest as a young hardcore WWE fan, nearing its 20th anniversary.
Robert Greene's documentary about a tiny wrestling promotion in North Carolina; David is friends with the director.
The Andy Kaufman documentary about his pro-wrestling feud with Jerry Lawler.
Andy Kaufman and Freddie Blassie's parody of My Dinner With Andre.
A Quebecois art film about the Canadian wrestling scene, made for the National Film Board and shaped by Roland Barthes's writing on wrestling.
On the early days of women's wrestling; David says it's never felt more relevant than now.
In conversation
Merchant's film, adapted from a British TV documentary Dwayne Johnson sent him, about WWE wrestler Paige (born Saraya-Jade Bevis) and her family.
The film Merchant made with Dwayne Johnson years earlier. It's how the two stayed in touch, leading Johnson to send him the documentary.
The only performance of Florence Pugh's Merchant had seen before casting her: "a much more contained, controlled performance" than what he needed from her here.
Merchant's touchstone for a movie that makes you root for a kid chasing a niche dream you don't personally care about.
Merchant borrowed its trick of shooting fight scenes with real HBO boxing cameramen for his Staples Center sequence.
Merchant's baseline for a sports movie that works on people who don't care about the sport: there's barely any fighting until the end.
Cited as the reboot that got the character-first approach right again.
Merchant's point: it's remembered as a musical but is actually a tough, dark, working-class drama that just happens to have joyous dance numbers, the same tonal mix he wanted.
Tim Burton's film, brought up over the choice to make the Joker Bruce Wayne's parents' killer, a young Merchant's version of getting mad online.
Merchant's reference for staging a huge, emotional live-performance set piece, like his own one-hour shoot at a real WWE taping in the Staples Center.
Merchant has a small part in Taika Waititi's then-upcoming film, alongside Thomasin McKenzie.
Merchant's pick for the last great thing he's seen: Debra Granik's film with Thomasin McKenzie, whom he'd just worked with on Jojo Rabbit.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing TrainwreckGuardians of the GalaxyThe Naked CityRififiMy Dinner with AndreActressBisbee '17Winter's Bone
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
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