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Let's Talk 'Tenet'

September 15, 2020/ 144 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

Sean and Amanda see 'Tenet' at a San Diego drive-in and try to recount its plot, after working through the Academy's new Best Picture rules and a fall theatrical slate coming apart at the seams. Plus: Antonio Campos on 'The Devil All the Time'.

44 films across 5 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Festivals are back, and so is the acquisition marketthe virtual TIFF / Telluride weekend

Nomadland poster

Nomadland 2020

Won the Golden Lion at Venice; seen at a Telluride drive-in and, for Sean, one of the year's best.

Pieces of a Woman poster

Pieces of a Woman 2020

Vanessa Kirby and Shia LaBeouf; picked up by Netflix, which already holds the deepest Oscar slate.

Bruised poster

Bruised 2021

Halle Berry's directorial debut, as an aging MMA fighter; another Netflix buy.

Malcolm & Marie poster

Malcolm & Marie 2021

Written and directed by Sam Levinson during quarantine; Netflix reportedly paid $30M for the John David Washington / Zendaya two-hander.

Joe Bell poster

Joe Bell 2021

Mark Wahlberg drama still without a distributor at festival time; Sean expects it to sell fast.

One Night in Miami poster

One Night in Miami 2020

Regina King's directorial debut, bought earlier in the month by Amazon; a likely Oscar contender.

The Academy's new Best Picture standardstwo of four, mostly below the line

The Irishman poster

The Irishman 2019

The reflexive 'would this even qualify?' example. Count Rodrigo Prieto, producer Emma Tillinger Koskoff, and Netflix's own hiring, and it clears the bar easily.

On the Waterfront poster

On the Waterfront 1954

The other reflex; made before the Voting Rights Act, so the retroactive comparison collapses.

1917 poster

1917 2019

Amanda's favorite bad-faith objection: the all-white-guy movie the standards supposedly ban, which it doesn't.

Moonlight poster

Moonlight 2016

First of the last four winners Sean runs through, a run of breakthroughs the diversified voting body already produced.

Green Book poster

Green Book 2018

The complicated one: backlash in a year of BlacKkKlansman, Black Panther, and Roma.

Why 'Tenet' stalled, and what's left on the 2020 slateWarner Bros. hides the daily grosses

The New Mutants poster

The New Mutants 2020

Doing Tenet-adjacent numbers; the brand awareness at least gets Disney a little something.

Unhinged poster

Unhinged 2020

Along with New Mutants, one of the few other titles drawing anyone into theaters.

Wonder Woman 1984 poster

Wonder Woman 1984 2020

Moved off October 2nd to Christmas; Sean doubts it holds the date.

Candyman poster

Candyman 2021

Pushed to 2021, costing Chris Ryan's wife her Halloween horror slot.

Death on the Nile poster

Death on the Nile 2022

Older-skewing Agatha Christie mystery that might play bang-up business at home.

Black Widow poster

Black Widow 2021

The biggest decision on the board; MCU connective tissue set for election week, November 6th.

Mulan poster

Mulan 2020

Already sent to Disney+ PVOD; did business, but underperformed in Chinese theaters.

Soul poster

Soul 2020

Pixar Oscar hopeful that could follow Onward straight to Disney+.

Onward poster

Onward 2020

The family-pleasing Disney+ precedent for Soul.

No Time to Die poster

No Time to Die 2021

Daniel Craig's finale, directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga; the film Sean most wants to see in an actual theater.

Coming 2 America poster

Coming 2 America 2021

The thirty-years-later sequel to the Eddie Murphy comedy.

Dune poster

Dune 2021

Villeneuve's; stacked back-to-back with Wonder Woman on Warner's calendar, which is how you know neither date is real.

Dune (1984) poster

Dune (1984) 1984

David Lynch's version, one stop on the book-adaptation lecture Sean inflicted on his wife.

Jodorowsky's Dune poster

Jodorowsky's Dune 2013

The documentary Eileen recognized, which set the whole lecture off.

West Side Story poster

West Side Story 2021

Spielberg's musical adaptation, holding a December slot.

Respect poster

Respect 2021

The Aretha Franklin biopic starring Jennifer Hudson.

Mank poster

Mank 2020

Part of Netflix's enviable year-end slate.

The Trial of the Chicago 7 poster

The Trial of the Chicago 7 2020

Sorkin, an object of shared affection on the show; Sean has had enough of the teaser-for-the-teaser rollout.

Extraction poster

Extraction 2020

Cited as a cool set-piece movie that plays very differently at a drive-in than on the couch.

'Tenet' at the drive-in (spoilers)recount the movie

Tenet poster

Tenet 2020

Seen at a San Diego drive-in, radio volume in their own hands, which softened the notorious sound mix. For Sean it's the first time Nolan drops the big emotional point and just lets the idea rip: a Bond/Mission: Impossible movie with his time obsession and Ludwig Göransson's score, John David Washington and Robert Pattinson running a two-hour charm Olympics. Also very confusing: he admits to grasping maybe 60-70% of it. Amanda's recap runs from the Kyiv opera raid through the Freeport heist, the inverted highway chase, and the Stalsk-12 temporal pincer, landing on Sator's climate-change motive and the algorithm. A B CinemaScore, Nolan's worst since The Prestige.

Antonio Campos on 'The Devil All the Time'

The Devil All the Time poster
Antonio Campos on

The Devil All the Time 2020

Adapted with his brother from Donald Ray Pollock's novel; a father-son generational story of trauma and faith that blends Southern (Campos says Midwestern) gothic with hard-boiled fiction. He landed Pattinson, Tom Holland, and Sebastian Stan by playing the long game: actors who use their off-franchise time to get weird.

Christine poster
Antonio Campos on

Christine 2016

His pre-Sinner feature, and a bigger ensemble than people remember.

Afterschool poster
Antonio Campos on

Afterschool 2008

The Borderline Films debut he still draws a squiggly line from to this movie.

Simon Killer poster
Antonio Campos on

Simon Killer 2012

Another single-character study, contrasted with Devil's sprawl.

Scarecrow poster
Antonio Campos on

Scarecrow 1973

Jerry Schatzberg's; his last-great-thing, rewatched for the final shot of Hackman smashing a shoe as it cuts to black.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Nolan's filmography and Tenet's touchstones InceptionInterstellarMementoThe PrestigeThe Dark KnightDunkirkSkyfallQuantum of SolaceCasablancaThe Thomas Crown AffairArrivalGodzilla

Campos's influences and cast Cape FearThe Honeymoon KillersThe Night of the HunterBadlandsThe Deer HunterThe GodfatherOnce Upon a Time in AmericaBlue VelvetGood TimeTwilightThe BatmanThe Impossible

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

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