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The platonic ideal. Butler thinks he's doing Richard III; the whole genre traces back to the feeling you get 20 minutes in.
The Big Picture · Discussion · Awards · Interview
November 10, 2020/ 101 min/ Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan
Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan coin 'garbage crime' (the mid-budget, B-minus crime picture), hand out its first awards, then Sean talks to Brandon Cronenberg about Possessor.
55 films across 3 segments.
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What is garbage crime?the mid-budget B-minus crime picture, defined
The platonic ideal. Butler thinks he's doing Richard III; the whole genre traces back to the feeling you get 20 minutes in.
Shitty IP plus a charismatic ensemble solving a pedestrian crime: Ryan's early tell that the wave was coming.
A sequel reaching for respectable that lands in the bin. Kind of sucks, deeply watchable.
Takes the highfalutin idea of Sicario and finds the repeatable model: Brolin and Del Toro on the road.
An out-of-genre franchise that pivoted into a pure all-night firefight movie.
Garbage crime up to the point the football stadium explodes. Same plot machinery as 21 Bridges.
The inverse: a where-are-my-kids setup that Villeneuve elevates into Lynchian dread.
Too good to qualify. It has the Heat masks, but you'd recommend it to your mother-in-law.
A misfire dragged down into the bin. Fennessey calls it absolute trash and means it fondly.
Mann's incomprehensible hacker picture, complete with a visible Getty stock photo.
Affleck doing his Don Siegel homage.
Wahlberg carries garbage crime into the streaming era: the future of mid-budget movies.
Incomprehensible in a theater, far better as a disposable Netflix watch.
The perfect cable movie; Boseman doing a restrained '70s character-actor lead.
The week's exemplar: Kinnaman picking up different cell phones and sweating, shelved since 2018.
The First Annual Garbage Crime OscarsFennessey nominates, Ryan picks the winners
Brandon Cronenberg on Possessor
The seed was a press-tour sense of being an imposter in his own life; the sci-fi built out from the domestic scenes. Real neuroscience (Jose Delgado's stim-o-ceivers) underpins it, used figuratively.
His first feature, eight years earlier, grown out of a film-school short. People keep telling him it was the one to release now.
Then in development: a tourist-resort satire with sci-fi horror elements. (A second project, Dragon, was also in the works.)
The one that actually blew up on Netflix at the start of the pandemic.
The last great thing he saw: Lumet, caught on Criterion during quarantine.
Another Lumet he kept returning to; shoots a room full of people talking with rare dynamism.
The Adam West movie he watched constantly as a kid. 'It's all the shark repellent in my films.'
Also mentioned raised along the way
The godfathers HeatThiefCollateralManhunterGoodfellasThe GodfatherMean StreetsReservoir DogsTraining DayThe Last Boy ScoutMan on FireThe FugitiveUnder SiegeHighlander
Denzel & Wahlberg checks Safe House2 GunsThe EqualizerThe Equalizer 2The Magnificent SevenFlightFencesBroken CityThe Departed
In passing SpeedLethal Weapon 2Lethal Weapon 3TigerlandThe PurgeSicarioThe IrishmanArgoKnives OutJohn WickSmokin' AcesAmerican GangsterStreet KingsWantedHell or High WaterSaltThe GuestThe MasterFranticThe ShallowsJungle CruiseInside ManFurySuicide SquadThe MechanicCut Throat CityThe Ballad of Buster ScruggsMa Rainey's Black Bottom
Coming garbage crime Without RemorseThe Little ThingsThose Who Wish Me Dead
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV True DetectiveThe Night OfThe ShieldJustifiedNarcosMoney HeistGangs of LondonZeroZeroZeroThe Queen's GambitBig LoveThe Walking DeadGame of ThronesDownton AbbeyYellowstoneTwo Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place
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