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‘Hot Frosty’ and ‘Moana 2’: What Even Are Movies?

November 27, 2024/ 99 min/ Sean Fennessey · Rob Harvilla · Yasi Salek

Sean Fennessey pulls in Rob Harvilla and Bandsplain's Yasi Salek to take two of 2024's most-watched non-movies seriously: Netflix's snowman rom-com 'Hot Frosty' and Disney's 'Moana 2.' Then Sean sits down with Garrett Price about the 'Yacht Rock' documentary.

30 films across 4 segments.

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‘Hot Frosty’Sean Fennessey, Rob Harvilla, Yasi Salek

Hot Frosty poster

Hot Frosty 2024

Netflix's snowman rom-com: a young widow (Lacey Chabert) builds a snowman who comes to life as a himbo (Dustin Milligan, the Schitt's Creek vet), with Craig Robinson as a sheriff who seems to be in a different movie than everyone else. Rob wanted the widow to sleep with the snowman and felt cheated when she didn't; Yasi, a devoted watcher of the streaming-Christmas genre, rates it an 11 out of 10. Licenses Pretty Woman for a shopping montage and closes on a fake-Coldplay needle drop.

Mean Girls (2004) poster

Mean Girls (2004) 2004

Lacey Chabert's high point; Hot Frosty winks at it when Lindsay Lohan shows up on a TV in the background.

Mean Girls poster

Mean Girls 2024

The musical remake, which Sean takes as evidence that Mean Girls is somehow back in the culture.

The Crow (1994) poster

The Crow (1994) 1994

The reason Yasi is on the show: Sean had planned a whole episode around her love of the original.

The Crow poster

The Crow 2024

The Bill Skarsgård reimagining, which stunk so thoroughly Sean gave it four minutes on air and no episode of its own.

‘Moana 2’and a walk back through the Disney canon

Moana 2 poster

Moana 2 2024

Started life as a Disney+ series before the studio turned it into a theatrical feature, with a new directing team and Abigail Barlow and Emily Bear replacing Lin-Manuel Miranda on songs. Sean finds it a disappointing McGuffin hunt that maps too cleanly onto the first film; the kids in the theater loved it anyway.

Moana poster

Moana 2016

The Musker-and-Clements original Sean rates as about as good as Disney animation gets. Yasi rewatched it to pregame and cried against her will.

The Lion King poster

The Lion King 1994

The second-golden-age run that hands off to Toy Story and Pixar in 1995.

Sleeping Beauty poster

Sleeping Beauty 1959

Sean's example of the beautiful-but-passive princess: she sleeps through the final 30 minutes of her own movie.

Tangled poster

Tangled 2010

A more self-sufficient Rapunzel, part of Disney rethinking the damsel.

Frozen II poster

Frozen II 2019

Rob walked out sure the songs were trash, then came around to it hard.

Encanto poster

Encanto 2021

Rob's favorite of the era, movie and soundtrack. Mirabel has no love interest and isn't special, which is the point.

What they're looking forward toyear-end and beyond

Babygirl poster

Babygirl 2024

Yasi's pick: 'now that is a Yossi movie.'

Wicked poster

Wicked 2024

Rob still hasn't seen it; a man left Moana 2 furious that Wicked turned out to be a musical.

Conclave poster

Conclave 2024

Sean's Pope movie, best seen in a theater full of elderly people.

The Wild Robot poster

The Wild Robot 2024

On VOD; Sean's waiting for it to drop below $25.

Our Little Secret poster

Our Little Secret 2024

The low-end Netflix holiday one: two resentful exes stuck together after their partners turn out to be siblings.

Better Man poster

Better Man 2024

The Robbie Williams biopic in which he's a monkey.

A Complete Unknown poster

A Complete Unknown 2024

Sean's seen the Dylan/Chalamet movie but won't talk about it until the show does.

‘Yacht Rock’

Music Box: Yacht Rock: A DOCKumentary poster
Garrett Price on

Music Box: Yacht Rock: A DOCKumentary 2024

Garrett Price on his Ringer/HBO doc reclaiming yacht rock. Michael McDonald's and Christopher Cross's daughters put him onto it, Toto turn out to be the session-player bedrock of the whole sound, and the film nearly collapsed while he waited on Donald Fagan (who hates the term) to clear six Steely Dan songs.

Also mentioned raised along the way

The streaming-Christmas canon The Christmas ChroniclesThe Princess SwitchThe Princess Switch: Switched AgainThe Princess Switch 3: Romancing the StarA Royal ChristmasFalling for ChristmasOperation Christmas Drop

Thrown in for comparison Encino ManPretty WomanAnoraHot Tub Time MachineDune: Part TwoThe GodfatherToy StoryGreaseLittle Shop of HorrorsSouth Park: Bigger, Longer & UncutThe Wizard of Oz

Music movies and other name-drops Woodstock 99: Peace, Love, and RageAlmost FamousBohemian RhapsodyElvisMorvern CallarIn the HeightsTick, Tick... Boom!Alex CrossMagic Mike's Last DanceBlitz

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Schitt's CreekEastbound & DownThe StateSelling SunsetLove IslandLove Is BlindDaisy Jones & the SixCrossSaturday Night Live

Web series Yacht Rock (2005 web series)

Stage Hamilton

Games Sonic the Hedgehog

Ads TremfyaWells Fargo Autograph JourneyState FarmAmazon PrimeNetflixWhole FoodsMint Mobile

Podcast promos 60 Songs That Explain the 90sBandsplain