The Irishman 2019
Front-runner status, honored up and down the slate, but De Niro was snubbed for Best Actor, read as payback for mocking the HFPA on a telecast years ago.
The Big Picture · Discussion · Interview
December 9, 2019/ 91 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins woke up at 5 a.m. for the 77th Golden Globe nominations and go through them category by category: the De Niro snub, Netflix crowding out Ford v Ferrari, Cats left for dead. Then they read the tea leaves on the Oscar race and talk with documentarian Alex Gibney about Citizen K.
65 films across 3 segments.
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The Golden Globe Nominationscategory by category
Front-runner status, honored up and down the slate, but De Niro was snubbed for Best Actor, read as payback for mocking the HFPA on a telecast years ago.
Six nominations, but no Best Director for Baumbach. Hit Netflix this weekend and drove the conversation.
Five nominations. Kyle Buchanan floated it as a possible A Star Is Born of the season; Brad and Leo both got in.
Four nominations including Todd Phillips for director, running eighth on the oddsboards. Sean's Green-Book-style pick to actually win Best Drama.
Three nominations including screenplay; ineligible for drama or comedy under the HFPA's foreign-language rule. The screenplay nod signals it's being taken seriously.
Three nominations. Daniel Craig got in on star power once Sandler moved out of the comedy field.
Golden Globes candy: Vatican setting, Pryce and Hopkins, feel-good and accessible. Premieres on Netflix Dec 20.
The serious-dad movie of the season; nudged into Best Drama over Ford v Ferrari.
Only two nominations and no Best Drama, a big loser of the morning. One of four woman-led films the Globes overlooked.
Two nominations, no Lulu Wang for director or screenplay. Ran in drama, not comedy, complicated by its Chinese production.
Two nominations, missed Best Drama. Margot Robbie in supporting; Charlize Theron's transformation called unreal on rewatch.
One nomination, for J.Lo: expected, but nothing else.
One nomination. 'Dead, at least in the awards race.' Sean keeps insisting it was snubbed.
One nomination, for Kathy Bates in supporting. Too Eastwood-American for the HFPA, but rising in critics lists.
Zero nominations, three weeks before release, may toll the end of its campaign.
Zero nominations; ends the conversation completely.
Christian Bale in Best Actor but no Best Picture. A traditional crowd-pleaser squeezed out by Netflix's four-film haul.
No love for Pattinson or Dafoe. The film the top-five audience begged Sean to cover. 'Keep shining.'
Moved from comedy into drama after last week's taping, neutralizing Sandler's chances. Shut out.
Two nominations, a campaigning win for Netflix. Watch whether Eddie Murphy makes the Best Actor race.
Best Foreign Language nominee; Antonio Banderas in Best Actor.
A nice surprise in Foreign Language: strong opening box office, one of the best-reviewed films of the year, and not France's Oscar submission.
Ladj Ly's film, in Best Foreign Language.
Mati Diop's Netflix film, the big Foreign Language snub.
Brazil's Oscar entry; Sean caught it over the weekend and recommends it.
Best Animated nominee in a weak year for the category; 'Into the Unknown' also up for song (Idina Menzel, not Panic! at the Disco).
Best Animated nominee.
Laika/UA production with an aggressive swag-heavy campaign; looks exposed once the Oscar race narrows.
Best Animated nominee, one of three Disney nods in the category.
Nominated in Animated at the Globes; won't compete there at the Oscars.
The critics' animated pick, snubbed here: a strange, very good French Netflix film whose oddity may have limited the HFPA.
In Best Comedy; 'I'm Gonna Love Me Again' up for song (Elton John).
Cynthia Erivo in Best Actress/Drama; 'Stand Up' up for song. A movie Sean and Amanda find fine but uninteresting.
Jessie Buckley is delightful and the song is lovely. Shame on the HFPA for missing it.
A random-but-welcome Best Score nomination (Daniel Pemberton) capturing mid-century New York jazz.
Shut out of screenplay and score (Giacchino); starting to feel like it's fading.
Michael Abels' score snubbed; Lupita Nyong'o's Best Actress snub is a blow despite Universal's billboard push.
No score nomination, no Star Wars at all. Hadn't screened in time.
Tom Hanks in supporting; missed Best Drama.
Annette Bening in supporting, Sean's 'nothing burger' pick: 'she's just wearing a wig.'
Renée Zellweger a lock in Best Actress/Drama; category fraud that it isn't in comedy. Possibly this year's Glenn Close, though she already has an Oscar.
Alfre Woodard snub in Best Actress, last-minute, few have seen it.
Cate Blanchett in Best Comedy Actress, a movie Amanda thinks doesn't work but isn't quite bad.
Beanie Feldstein in Best Comedy Actress, a cheerful Globes-stage moment if she wins.
Emma Thompson in Best Comedy Actress.
Noah Jupe in the young-actor race, running behind Julia Butters.
Amanda's beloved Critics' Choice Best Sci-Fi nominee; Sean keeps calling the Thanos snub 'brutal.'
Stock Up, Stock Downreading the wider Oscar race
Stock up: New York and NBR both named it best film. Getting Roma vibes: critics love it, but the older, watch-my-friends crowd has been resistant. Reached ~13.2M viewers in five days per Nielsen.
The best-picture weather vane: as soon as film Twitter started asking 'are we sure it's that good,' Amanda called it. Manageable, quietly artistic, and 'anyone who's been cheated on is like, fuck this movie.'
The comparison point: swept the critics last year, then a lot of people just meant to get through it at home.
Debuted to ~11M views but didn't crack the Oscar conversation. Popularity doesn't equal awards.
The meme-fueled benchmark: ~26M views in five days, zero Oscars.
Stock down: cooked except for Tom Hanks, whom Sean really likes. Doing okay business, on year-end lists.
Stock down: didn't even make the AFI top 10, which is where a movie like it wants to be.
In conversation
His latest: the story of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, once Russia's richest man, jailed after calling out Putin's corruption and now a dissident in exile. A pocket history of Russia's false democracy told as pulp: gangster film, Western, dark comedy. Title nods to both Kane and Kafka's K.
His Oscar winner. Approached as a torture film; found the way in through Dilawar, the taxi driver, and told it as a murder mystery. The first film he narrated himself, after including footage of his dying father.
Cited among the films that made his name.
His other 2019 release, also dark, also about what ambition does to a person.
Rights trouble stalled it, so he worked on it alongside Taxi to the Dark Side, the accidental start of his habit of juggling projects.
His first big film, narrated by Peter Coyote; he approached it as a heist film.
The Jack Abramoff film. Left him still hunting a lobbyist willing to name names about money in politics.
One of the films where he used actors to play with fiction and reality.
Got the playful fiction/non-fiction conceit but found the real Dylan footage (the Baez exchanges, the performances) far more interesting than the invented mythology.
His pick for the last great thing he's seen, raw and tender, a first-time filmmaker documenting horror in Syria while raising a child. 'Out of despair comes hope.'
Also mentioned raised along the way
Comparisons and asides Inglourious BasterdsThe NaturalGreen BookBohemian RhapsodyThe WifeAmerican SniperCasablancaChinatownRaiders of the Lost ArkRenaldo and Clara
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
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