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‘Gladiator II’ Is Here. Are We Not Entertained?

November 22, 2024/ 114 min/ Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan · Mallory Rubin

Sean, Chris, and Mallory, a trio that hasn't potted together since the Inglourious Basterds Rewatchables, dig into Ridley Scott's long-delayed sequel, a movie they found hugely entertaining and a huge disappointment at the same time. Denzel Washington runs off with it; Paul Mescal fights CGI baboons. Then a top-five legacy sequels draft, one list each.

18 films across 4 segments.

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Gladiator II poster

Gladiator II 2024

Structurally a near one-to-one redo of the first film with the politics flipped, which keeps inviting a comparison it can't win. Denzel Washington's Macrinus, a freed slave and arms dealer improvising his way to power, is the best thing in it; Mescal's Lucius, revealed as Maximus's son, gets buried under CGI baboons, a rhino, and a shark battle. Everyone loved the intimate hand-to-hand fights and the twin-emperor debauchery (Fred Hechinger, Joseph Quinn); everyone found the movie messy. Empty-calorie Ridley: a fun night out, not a serious film.

Gladiator poster

Gladiator 2000

The measuring stick, and by their read arguably the last truly practical blockbuster, with little CGI beyond the wide shots of Rome. The sequel's Skywalker-style retcon (Lucius as Maximus's son) sent Mallory back through her memory of a film she'd rewatched three days earlier.

Sean's Top Five Legacy Sequelsdirector revisits the work much later

Mad Max: Fury Road poster
No. 1

Mad Max: Fury Road 2015

No. 1 — one of the greatest movies of the century; Max is almost incidental to the world and the experience.

Top Gun: Maverick poster
No. 2

Top Gun: Maverick 2022

No. 2 — the degree of difficulty is higher than Fury Road's, and he can't name one person who didn't like it. Val Kilmer's scene got him.

Doctor Sleep poster
No. 3

Doctor Sleep 2019

No. 3 — the director's cut. Disliked it the first time; the longer version made it one of his favorites of the last 10 years. Flanagan as the coming Stephen King 'Kevin Feige.'

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 poster
No. 4

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 1986

No. 4 — same filmmaker, 12 to 13 years later, swapping horror for slapstick, with a ludicrous Dennis Hopper as the hero.

The Color of Money poster
No. 5

The Color of Money 1986

No. 5 — also Chris's No. 1. Scorsese and Richard Price find Paul Newman's Eddie Felson in his twilight, mentoring a protégé; to Chris, better than The Hustler.

Mallory's Top Five Legacy Sequelsdirector revisits the work much later

Before Midnight poster
No. 1

Before Midnight 2013

No. 1 — the guts Gladiator II lacked: what if these people actually wound up together, and it was hard? A raw, very French reckoning; the Before trilogy is one of her three favorite trilogies.

Logan poster
No. 2

Logan 2017

No. 2 — also Chris's No. 2. One of her favorite comic-book movies; Daphne Keen, Hugh Jackman, and Patrick Stewart bridging old and new. 'Desecrated by Deadpool & Wolverine.'

Mad Max: Fury Road poster
No. 3

Mad Max: Fury Road 2015

No. 3 — first saw it at the Vista on release, 'electrifying,' one of her favorite theater memories.

Top Gun: Maverick poster
No. 4

Top Gun: Maverick 2022

No. 4 — inseparable from the COVID-era moment of gathering to share something, but it holds up absent that context.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens poster
No. 5

Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2015

No. 5 — maps closely onto A New Hope (Starkiller Base, Jakku, BB-8) but far more successful at launching a trilogy than The Phantom Menace. She'd argue The Last Jedi is the better film.

Chris's Top Five Legacy Sequelsdirector revisits the work much later

The Color of Money poster
No. 1

The Color of Money 1986

No. 1 — the most magical revisiting of a text he can think of, and better than the original.

Logan poster
No. 2

Logan 2017

No. 2 — one of his three favorite comic-book movies, alongside The Dark Knight and Into the Spider-Verse.

Before Midnight poster
No. 3

Before Midnight 2013

No. 3 — one of the most beautiful movies ever made; a portrait of youth revisited two decades on.

T2 Trainspotting poster
No. 4

T2 Trainspotting 2017

No. 4 — came and went despite the original's cultural impact; middle-aged men reckoning with their masculinity in Danny Boyle's throw-everything-at-the-wall style. Underrated.

The Exorcist III poster
No. 5

The Exorcist III 1990

No. 5 (tie) — William Peter Blatty's return, 13 years after the second film; a straight-up great horror movie that's also provocative about the first film's ideas.

2010: The Year We Make Contact poster
No. 6

2010: The Year We Make Contact 1984

No. 5 (tie) — Peter Hyams following Kubrick, with Roy Scheider and Helen Mirren; sacrilegious for trying to answer 2001's questions, and Chris likes it anyway.

Also mentioned raised along the way

In the Gladiator II talk NapoleonPrometheus1492: Conquest of ParadiseThe Last DuelHouse of GucciBlade RunnerAlienBlack Hawk DownThelma & LouiseTraining DayConclaveAnoraKing KongApocalypse NowA Complete UnknownMotherless BrooklynAftersunAll of Us StrangersFencesRoman J. Israel, Esq.The EqualizerA Quiet Place: Day OneThe Fantastic Four: First StepsA Beautiful MindGosford ParkThe Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the RingMulholland DriveDuneDune: Part TwoFuriosa: A Mad Max SagaTwistersWickedBlue Thunder

Legacy-sequel examples they didn't pick The Godfather Part IIIPsycho IIJurassic ParkJurassic WorldStar Wars: The Rise of SkywalkerStar Wars: The Last JediThe Phantom MenaceThe Empire Strikes BackReturn of the JediStar WarsThe Exorcist2001: A Space OdysseyThe Texas Chain Saw MassacreTexas Chainsaw MassacreTrainspottingThe ShiningCarrieBefore SunriseBefore SunsetThe HustlerTop GunDeadpool & WolverineThe Dark KnightSpider-Man: Into the Spider-VerseCaptain America: The Winter SoldierDoctor Strange in the Multiverse of MadnessEternalsAvengers: Infinity WarAvengers: EndgameInglourious Basterds

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV The SopranosNormal PeopleThe White LotusStranger ThingsThe Last of UsGame of ThronesThe MandalorianThe GreatHis Dark MaterialsThe AcolyteHawkeyeThe Rings of PowerDune: ProphecyLandmanThe Dark Tower

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