Barbie 2023
Past $1 billion and, in Amanda's read, the rare billion-dollar movie that's actually good; the pair debate whether Hollywood learns 'trust auteurs' or just 'make more toy movies.'
The Big Picture · Discussion · Interview
August 28, 2023/ 123 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
Back from a month off, Sean and Amanda catch up on the summer they skipped: Barbenheimer clearing $2 billion, the strike-driven ‘Dune: Part Two’ delay, and a dozen August releases from ‘Bottoms’ to ‘Heart of Stone.’ Then Sean talks to Emma Seligman about ‘Bottoms.’ Bobby Wagner produces.
28 films across 4 segments.
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The news we missedBarbenheimer's $2 billion and the 'Dune 2' delay
Past $1 billion and, in Amanda's read, the rare billion-dollar movie that's actually good; the pair debate whether Hollywood learns 'trust auteurs' or just 'make more toy movies.'
Headed toward $800–900M, the other half of a ~$2B Barbenheimer that Sean says put him nearer the center of the culture than he'd felt in a decade.
Sean's reminder that it has outgrossed both films combined: a phenomenon with, as they joke, a footprint of having no footprint.
Pushed by the strikes to March 15, 2024 in a mid-recording pickup: the delay guts November and reopens Best Director and Best Picture slots.
Villeneuve's first, a 2021 Best Picture nominee; the sequel was expected to be a Return of the King-style awards centerpiece.
Three we lostFriedkin, Reubens, Robertson
William Friedkin, a past guest and, per Sean, 'such a fucking asshole from Chicago' in the most loving way, and an essential filmmaker.
The line-around-the-block hit that let Friedkin overwhelm the culture.
Among the great undiscovered Friedkins Sean urges people to seek out.
Sean's pick of the later Friedkin films everyone should watch.
Tim Burton's first feature and the gateway to Paul Reubens, 'a true one of one' comic mind for an 80s baby.
One of the many other things Reubens was wonderful in.
Another Reubens turn Sean singles out.
Robbie Robertson, Scorsese's consigliere; wouldn't exist without him. He scored the coming 'Killers of the Flower Moon.'
Everything we missed: the moviesthe August rundown
Emma Seligman's high-school fight-club comedy with Rachel Sennott and Ayo Adebiri. Sean laughed harder than at almost anything this year; both grant the plot bends to serve its set pieces. Nicholas Galitzine plays the dim quarterback, with Marshawn Lynch and Kaia Gerber.
The seventh Turtles film, animated, shepherded by Seth Rogen and Point Grey. Both found it charming and a little sad (childhood regurgitated at 40) before the obligatory oversized final fight. Voice cast of actual teenagers plus Rogen, Maya Rudolph, Paul Rudd, Ice Cube, Giancarlo Esposito.
Josh Greenbaum's talking-dog comedy (Will Ferrell, Jamie Foxx, Isla Fisher, Randall Park). Neither laughed; Amanda found it mean to dogs. The narrating-bulldog bit (maybe Josh Gad) drew the lone real laugh.
Ángel Manuel Soto's film with Xolo Maridueña, the first forward-facing Latino superhero movie, all but abandoned in the DCEU-to-Gunn handoff. Strong first 45 minutes (family, George Lopez, Susan Sarandon camping) before the standard noisy CG last hour.
Ira Sachs' film with Franz Rogowski, Ben Whishaw, and Adèle Exarchopoulos; a gay couple's marriage detonates over an affair. Released unrated after refusing an NC-17. One of Sean's favorites of the year, Rogowski a chaotic marvel.
Amazon's adaptation of Casey McQuiston's 2019 novel; the first son and a British prince fall in love. Both bored by its inert romance-novel stakes and Uma Thurman's badly off Texas-accented president. A streaming hit on the book's fanbase and Nicholas Galitzine anyway.
André Øvredal's period horror from the ship's-log chapter of 'Dracula.' Well staged, thinly written; Sean wishes they'd hidden the Dracula reveal rather than leading with it. Corey Hawkins, Liam Cunningham, David Dastmalchian.
Angel Studios' child-trafficking thriller with Jim Caviezel, a ~$180M hit on its pay-it-forward ticket scheme. Sean calls the film middling but singles out ten-plus minutes of Bill Camp.
Tom Harper's Netflix spy movie with Gal Gadot as a hidden super-agent serving a benevolent AI called 'the Heart.' Both found it astonishingly bad: a twist no one buys and a pro-AI message that lands badly at this moment.
Bill Pohlad's follow-up to 'Love & Mercy,' the story of the Emerson brothers' rediscovered 1970s record. Casey Affleck, Walton Goggins, Zooey Deschanel, Beau Bridges. Sean liked its portrait of a stuck, un-heroic artist whose music is still great.
Juel Taylor's directorial debut (John Boyega, Teyonah Parris, Jamie Foxx), a blaxploitation-tinged sci-fi cloning conspiracy. Sean's favorite of the Netflix batch; a real filmmaker's movie that sags in the third act.
Netflix's side-sequel to the 1994 whitewater thriller (Adam Brody, Leighton Meester, Taran Killam). A gnarly, well-made 'nobody makes these anymore' Sean-and-Amanda watch.
Emma Seligman on ‘Bottoms’
Written with Rachel Sennott and kept deliberately absurd and bloody: Heathers and Jawbreaker by way of Kick-Ass. Cast to play it straight; Marshawn Lynch improvised his way in without knowing why she wanted him.
Her personal, one-location debut with Sennott: the grounded, 'traumatic' opposite of the freeing 'Bottoms.'
The coming-of-age debut she caught on a Tribeca jury; her pick for the last great thing she's seen.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing TitanicSpider-Man: No Way HomeAvengers: EndgameThe Lord of the Rings: The Return of the KingAquamanAquaman and the Lost KingdomInterstellarTenetNapoleonMaestroWonkaChallengersThe BikeridersAirKillers of the Flower MoonThe MarvelsEternalsGuardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3Spider-Man: Across the Spider-VerseThe KillerRebel MoonNotting HillFair GameNixonRenfieldRed NoticeThe Gray ManThe Old GuardExtractionTriple FrontierThe Idea of YouPurple HeartsTheater CampInvisible BeautyFerris Bueller's Day OffMaster and Commander: The Far Side of the WorldWild RoseThe AeronautsLove & MercyThe River WildJerry Maguire
Emma's teen-comedy canon HeathersJawbreakerCluelessBring It OnAmerican PieSuperbad10 Things I Hate About YouNot Another Teen MovieDrop Dead GorgeousSugar & SpiceKick-AssFight ClubAttack the BlockSuper 8The Goonies
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
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