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‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ Is Here. Is Marvel Back?

July 26, 2024/ 82 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Van Lathan · Charles Holmes · Jomi Adeniran

Sean and Amanda hand the mic to three of the four Midnight Boys (Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, and Jomi Adeniran) for a full-spoiler talk on the only Marvel movie of 2024. Van had a blast, Charles found it emotionally hollow and didn't laugh once, Jomi read it as a love letter to the pre-MCU Fox characters, and Amanda watched from outside every reference. The argument they keep circling: is a $250 million spoof of superhero movies a send-off for Deadpool or for 20th Century Fox? Part one of a two-part crossover; part two lives on the Midnight Boys feed.

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‘Deadpool & Wolverine’full spoilers, with the Midnight Boys

Deadpool & Wolverine poster

Deadpool & Wolverine 2024

The year's only Marvel release, directed by Shawn Levy and written by Ryan Reynolds, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, Zeb Wells, and Levy. Amanda reads Sean's plot recap aloud: Deadpool is pulled into the TVA by Mr. Paradox (Matthew Macfadyen), grabs a downtrodden Wolverine, and lands in the Void, where Cassandra Nova (Emma Corrin) and a wasteland of forgotten Fox characters await. Van had a blast and calls it a home game: he already cares about Deadpool. Charles found it emotionally hollow and didn't laugh once. Jomi read it as a love letter to the pre-MCU characters (Johnny Storm was his first hero). Everyone flagged the wall-to-wall exposition and low stakes and praised Hugh Jackman. Sean's frame: a $250 million spoof of superhero movies that works as comedy but plays like IP loss-prevention from a journeyman director, and a send-off for 20th Century Fox more than for Deadpool. The Wesley Snipes 'there's only one Blade' line lands as a direct shot at Mahershala Ali's stalled Blade.

Deadpool poster

Deadpool 2016

Van rewatched it right after this one and came away thinking Deadpool works grittier and smaller, closer to Venom, when his world feels as violent as he is. Home of the original meta gags: 'which one, Stewart or McAvoy?'

Deadpool 2 poster

Deadpool 2 2018

Amanda read the Wikipedia pages to prep: the Cable time-slip device at the end is how Vanessa comes back and why the TVA is chasing Deadpool for messing with the sacred timeline.

Logan poster

Logan 2017

The counterexample everyone reaches for: James Mangold making something sincere and good inside the corporate machine. This movie opens with Deadpool digging Wolverine's body out of Logan and fighting TVA agents with it, which the group agreed was a genuinely sick gag.

Spider-Man: No Way Home poster

Spider-Man: No Way Home 2021

The template for legacy-cameo emotion done right: Tobey Maguire in only three films, Andrew Garfield getting to save MJ. Sean's argument is that Deadpool & Wolverine wants that payoff (Elektra, Blade, Gambit) but the characters don't carry the same weight, so the feeling never lands.

Also mentioned raised along the way

MCU and the multiverse saga Avengers: Infinity WarAvengers: EndgameDoctor Strange in the Multiverse of MadnessIron ManIron Man 3Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten RingsEternalsCaptain America: The Winter SoldierCaptain America: Brave New WorldThunderbolts

The Fox era and its cameos X-MenX2X-Men: The Last StandX-Men: Days of Future PastX-Men: First ClassX-Men Origins: WolverineFantastic FourThe Fantastic Four: First StepsElektraBladeBlade: Trinity

Also name-checked SupermanTwistersTwisterGladiator IITop Gun: MaverickFuriosa: A Mad Max SagaMad Max: Fury RoadThe IncrediblesA Quiet Place: Day OneThe Greatest ShowmanLes MisérablesThe Music ManThe Icicle ThiefBeverly Hills Cop: Axel FBeverly Hills Cop IIIAirplane!Airport 1975

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV LokiHouse of the DragonLois & Clark: The New Adventures of SupermanThe CurseRaising DionSupacellThe BoysStranger Things

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