Two Days in the Valley 1996
Rob's breakthrough pick. An extremely-90s LA ensemble; her character Helga Svelgen is introduced via a bloody Polaroid and a James Spader sex scene. 'You're not too tall, it's the world that's too short.'
The Big Picture · Discussion · Review · Interview
May 3, 2019/ 83 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Rob Harvilla
Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins, and Rob Harvilla walk Charlize Theron's career in reverse, from model-decoration bit parts through the Monster Oscar to her action-and-indie reinvention, then review Long Shot. Plus: Sean talks to its director, Jonathan Levine.
46 films across 5 segments.
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The model yearsthe first half-decade, cast as an object
Rob's breakthrough pick. An extremely-90s LA ensemble; her character Helga Svelgen is introduced via a bloody Polaroid and a James Spader sex scene. 'You're not too tall, it's the world that's too short.'
Amanda's pick, and the first time she saw Theron: the beautiful, cold hometown girlfriend who dumps the drummer for her dentist, playing vapid and in on the joke.
Sean's breakthrough pick. As Mary Ann Lomax, the one person trying to act for real inside a ludicrous Al Pacino/Keanu Reeves movie, curly blonde to shorn brunette.
Minor Woody Allen; her character is literally named Supermodel. Nobody on screen can talk to her like a human.
The warm-bath literary adaptation; not the main character.
Stuck beside Ben Affleck, part of the long stretch subservient to the male lead.
The popcorny heist mode Amanda came to her through.
Monster, and the reinventionthe Oscar, then a decade of misfires
Patty Jenkins's Aileen Wuornos. The example everyone cites for uglify-to-win-an-Oscar, but the hosts land on: braver at the time than in memory, and as much for going all the way as for the teeth.
One of the new-lead swings that immediately followed the win, and it flopped.
A second Oscar nomination, for a mining-industry sexual-harassment drama that failed at the box office and left little cultural footprint.
Her bid for action stardom, notoriously recut and mismanaged; a dry run for Atomic Blonde that lost money. On Simmons's podcast she just went 'ugh.'
Paul Haggis's first film after Crash; heavy-handed, with a good Tommy Lee Jones.
Roughly ten years ahead of Captain Marvel. She does the emotional lifting opposite Will Smith; the twist is obvious in the first ten minutes.
Personal pinnacles, and the action turneach host's peak, plus the 40s reinvention
Sean's pinnacle and, the room agrees, her best film. Furiosa is a near-silent, glowering, John Wayne-stoic performance behind the wheel, the image you now picture as new Charlize.
Rob's pinnacle. A stunted, misanthropic YA author the movie graciously declines to redeem. It's the tipping point where she reinvented herself just as movie stars stopped mattering.
Amanda's pinnacle. A cool pivot straight off the action run; the middle-hour two-hander with Mackenzie Davis is the best stretch of the movie, even if the ending is too neat.
Amanda's favorite. The staircase fight and a genuinely great performance under the confusing triple-cross plot; a raucous South by screening that never quite crossed over.
Hamming it up as the evil queen; best remembered now for the Kristen Stewart/Rupert Sanders tabloid moment.
Sean defends it; her role is subservient to Guy Pearce's ancient character.
Seth MacFarlane's very bad Western comedy, the 'cool girl' streak at its most ineffective.
As Cypher, a part likely written for a man, seemingly yelling into a microphone at Vin Diesel from a blacked-out room.
Forthcoming then: she voices Morticia in the animated film.
Then titled Fair and Balanced, Jay Roach's Fox News drama, with Theron as Megyn Kelly.
Long Shot
A crowd-pleasing shade for her: a powerful politician who falls for Seth Rogen's schlub speechwriter. The hosts argue it short-circuits the usual rom-com tropes (she's already funny and human, doesn't need a man to fix her) and is honest about both the chemistry and how striking she is at 40-something. Features a Boyz II Men performance.
In conversationSean and the writer-director on the movie and the state of studio comedy
Dan Sterling wrote it during the Obama years; Rogen and Theron produced. Levine reworked it toward 2019, aiming for an old-Hollywood Hepburn/Tracy two-hander with a lighter political touch than Colbert or Vice.
Shot, like Long Shot, in Montreal; the last script Levine wrote himself, and his own idea of a romantic comedy.
Where he learned the two-camera, improv Apatow style he still uses, and first pushed Rogen toward vulnerability.
The prior collaboration where he felt improvisation was crowding out the filmmaking.
His debut; sold big out of Toronto, then barely came out. His cautionary tale about festival mythology.
Won the Sundance audience award and didn't capitalize the way he'd hoped.
Levine's example of Rogen doing vulnerability outside his own films.
The rom-com Long Shot is measured against; Levine likes that it never labors to prove its woman isn't funny.
Adam McKay's; the pointed-political-comedy model Levine deliberately did not want to make.
He rewatched the Julia Roberts confrontation the morning of Long Shot's breakup scene, for the Mike Nichols blocking.
The kind of Hepburn/Tracy movie Levine watches in pre-production but doesn't assign to his actors.
An Edgar Wright-ish comedy he stumbled into that made him feel good about the genre's future.
The last thing he saw in a theater; loved it, admits he was a little confused.
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