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Bill Hader on ‘Barry,’ and Mary Kay Place and Kent Jones on ‘Diane’ | Interview

April 1, 2019/ 69 min/ Sean Fennessey

A double interview: Bill Hader on writing 'Barry' and the old movies behind it, then Mary Kay Place and Kent Jones on their film 'Diane.'

22 films across 2 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Bill Hader on ‘Barry’

Being There poster
Bill Hader on

Being There 1979

Hader's example of a loose, meandering '70s film that still runs on tight structure.

The Last Detail poster
Bill Hader on

The Last Detail 1973

The other Hal Ashby he cites: a quest movie under an emotional surface, maybe outlined from Robert Towne's script.

It's a Wonderful Life poster
Bill Hader on

It's a Wonderful Life 1946

His model for the 'clean pitch': a complicated story you can still summarize in a breath, and shot for it.

Where Is the Friend's House? poster
Bill Hader on

Where Is the Friend's House? 1987

Kiarostami. Hader watched it three times on FilmStruck and told Alec Berg to; a kid returning a classmate's notebook, and the writing he keeps striving for.

Roma poster
Bill Hader on

Roma 2018

His favorite of the prior year: the anti-Barry, structured like a Tarkovsky mood you let wash over you.

Shoplifters poster
Bill Hader on

Shoplifters 2018

Named alongside Roma as a film you sink into rather than plot tightly.

Woman in the Dunes poster
Bill Hader on

Woman in the Dunes 1964

The Blu-ray he watched the night before: a 'super disturbing Japanese movie' he rewatches between the freeway TV.

Bull Durham poster
Bill Hader on

Bull Durham 1988

First-time watch; likes that it isn't really a baseball movie, and calls it Kevin Costner's best.

Wolf Guy poster
Bill Hader on

Wolf Guy 1975

A Sonny Chiba movie he saw, 'crazy and not great.'

Hangmen Also Die! poster
Bill Hader on

Hangmen Also Die! 1943

The Fritz Lang he'd recommend; Brecht co-wrote it, a fictional telling of a Nazi assassination and the hostage reprisals that follow.

The Big Heat poster
Bill Hader on

The Big Heat 1953

His proof Lang had seen real violence: Lee Marvin throwing scalding coffee in a woman's face.

Kiss of the Spider Woman poster
Bill Hader on

Kiss of the Spider Woman 1985

The film his truck-driver father loved and broke down unpretentiously, the way Hader learned to talk about movies.

The Skeleton Twins poster
Bill Hader on

The Skeleton Twins 2014

The Hader movie HBO liked, which led to the meeting that became Barry.

Mary Kay Place and Kent Jones on ‘Diane’

Diane poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

Diane 2018

Jones's first narrative feature, written for Place: the world of his New England aunts and uncles, and a life nearing its end.

The Big Chill poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

The Big Chill 1983

Where Sean recalls Place from; part of 40 years of steady work.

The Rainmaker poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

The Rainmaker 1997

Place as Dot Black in the Coppola film, the role that made Jones think she could play his mother.

Time Out of Mind poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

Time Out of Mind 2014

The Oren Moverman film Jones admired before Moverman's company, Sight Unseen, backed Diane.

Hitchcock/Truffaut poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

Hitchcock/Truffaut 2015

Jones's documentary; he cut a late, sick-sounding Truffaut radio interview about filmmaking as a fugue state.

Capernaum poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

Capernaum 2018

Among Place's recent picks.

The Letter poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

The Letter 1940

One of the William Wyler films Jones revisited (a director who only grows for him).

Jezebel poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

Jezebel 1938

Another Wyler he looked at again recently.

The Best Years of Our Lives poster
Mary Kay Place & Kent Jones on

The Best Years of Our Lives 1946

The Wyler he knows by heart and found more shattering than ever; his father lived the coming-home experience it depicts.

Also mentioned raised along the way

In passing Certified CopyTaxi DriverRaging BullPredatorPolice Academy 5: Assignment Miami BeachDoberman CopHateship LoveshipBoyhood

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV BarrySouth ParkSaturday Night LiveSilicon ValleyDeadwoodAtlantaThe SopranosBreaking BadBodyguardSex EducationLady Dynamite

Theater True WestThe PrisonerThe Waverly Gallery

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