Beasts of No Nation 2015
Cited as one of the early Netflix originals that started the killing-cinema conversation.
The Big Picture · Discussion
May 10, 2022/ 80 min/ Sean Fennessey · Bobby Wagner
Sean and Bobby open the mailbag: whether Netflix killed cinema, a film-class syllabus on deception, kids' movies, the new 'Avatar' trailer, the hardest Hall of Fame to build, the under-40 directors worth watching, and 'Everything Everywhere All at Once' at the Oscars.
61 films across 9 segments.
AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.
Did Netflix kill cinema?Jay's question
Cited as one of the early Netflix originals that started the killing-cinema conversation.
$185M domestic; Sean's evidence the box office is coming back.
Crossing $40M, which excites him: an original genre movie with heart.
A merely-okay movie creeping toward $100M, another sign things are back.
The Art of Deception: a film classJustin's question — 10 (well, 11) films Sean would assign
The pure introduction of irresolution as a storytelling trope.
Killing off Janet Leigh's star at 40 minutes as the great subversion.
Bergman on identity and swapped roles.
Kubrick, for the shock of its ending (a cousin to Kiss Me Deadly).
Mamet's con-men film Sean's father showed him young; distrust everything you see.
A dream movie about whether any of it is really happening.
Miike's riveting, disgusting nightmare.
Lanthimos on language, tradition, and what a family accepts as fact.
Nolan's reversal of storytelling, worth three weeks of dissection.
Shyamalan reframing what Hitchcock did.
Set a new trajectory in horror-thriller storytelling since the show began.
Truly cinematic movies for a kid under fiveIsaac's question
The pick his cinephile friends keep recommending; for Sean, Miyazaki's best.
The other Ghibli some would name over Totoro.
Also floated as Miyazaki's best.
Sean has talked often about its influence on him; show it early.
'Little April Shower' calms his daughter Alice down.
Boring to most kids until you're older (or, per Sean, until you're edible).
Sweet and funny, and visually distinct for being set entirely underwater.
Bobby's homesick-from-school rewatch alongside Nemo.
Bobby's socialist read: the ants take power back from the grasshoppers.
The ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ trailerSparked by Finding Nemo
Trailer just hit YouTube; Sean says you can't judge Avatar off a laptop.
Sean saw it in IMAX and it worked; Bobby, 12 at the time, found it a tropey Pocahontas.
Bobby's shorthand for Avatar's white-savior story.
Part of Cameron's doubt-him-at-your-peril track record.
The 'really?' Cameron swing that became the biggest movie of all time.
Sean at 40 sees the reinvention of a trope: you're like, Hamlet.
The one trailer Sean might have driven out to a theater to catch.
Bobby's espresso-fueled Dolby plan; Sean warns it's tense.
The hardest Hall of Fame to buildTheRunningCAS's question — after the Nic Cage pod
The Cage inclusion that made people irrationally angry.
One of the three big Cage action movies they felt they had to acknowledge.
Ditto: the mid-'90s action clump.
The third one Bobby had to be reminded of.
The Cruise title Chris would fight to include.
What's at the center of culture now?Taylor's question
The kind of movie people once organized leisure time around.
Another example of movies as the sun the pop-culture planets orbited.
More culturally powerful than the biggest TV, per Sean: nothing is more mass than movies.
The best under-40 filmmakersConnor's question — pushing back on Sam Esmail's 'no great millennial movie yet'
Gerwig: maybe one that lasts the test of time.
Coogler: another that might.
Chazelle: will do it for some people.
Eggers: will do it for Sean.
The Safdies: indisputably, for Sean.
Cooper Raiff's Gen-Z first feature; feels like early Linklater.
Emma Seligman's first feature: Elaine May meets Polanski anxiety.
Raiff's Sundance follow-up.
Janicza Bravo, 41, but a film living between millennial and Gen-Z.
‘Everything Everywhere All at Once’ at the OscarsSimon's question
Sean hopes it gets in: a chance to celebrate Ke Huy Quan, Michelle Yeoh, Jamie Lee Curtis, James Hong.
An achievement with a small angle of viewership: most people don't watch it.
Up-and-coming directors to watchKane's question
Written by Hannah Marks, whom Sean keeps flagging.
Marks's okay-but-promising directorial outing.
Audrey Diwan's incredible, hard-to-watch abortion film; Sean saw it at Sundance.
Nikyatu Jusu's Sundance award-sweeper: domestic thriller with horror edges.
Remi Weekes's effective Netflix horror about origins.
Shatara Michelle Ford, one of Sean's favorites of its year.
Lauren Hadaway, another Sean favorite.
Michael Sarnoski's Cage film; he's now on a Quiet Place prequel.
The franchise Sarnoski is joining.
Sean thinks the sequel is underrated.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing 2001: A Space OdysseyFirestarter
In the book recs Gone with the WindRebeccaChinatownCasablanca
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