Bill & Ted Face the Music 2020
Opening the first real theatrical weekend of the reopening, and simultaneously on VOD.
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Are Movies the New TV? A Podcast Crossover Special, Part 1. Plus: Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter!
August 28, 2020/ 59 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
A crossover with The Watch's Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald on whether streaming has collapsed the line between movies and TV, then Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter on Bill & Ted Face the Music.
22 films across 2 segments.
AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.
Are Movies the New TV?with Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald of The Watch
The New Mutants 2020
The other theatrical release: a burned-off X-Men horror movie Andy argues should have been a Disney+ show.
Tenet 2020
Opening a week out; with nothing else on the calendar it could hold 4,500 screens for weeks.
Palm Springs 2020
The central 'media movie' example: a Sundance pickup that thrived on Hulu and spawned obsessive Reddit threads.
An American Pickle 2020
Amanda's starting point: a $20M three-hander that made no sense theatrically but fit HBO Max.
The Old Guard 2020
Cited as a bigger-budget repurposed movie, not the mid-budget sweet spot Andy means.
Extraction 2020
Same bucket as The Old Guard, too big to be a 'Wednesday night' movie.
Trolls World Tour 2020
Listed among the signature streaming-era releases of the summer.
Hamilton 2020
The filmed stage show as a summer movie event.
Black Is King 2020
Beyoncé's visual album, floated as another movie-that-isn't-quite-a-movie.
Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga 2020
Andy's added example of the category; neither host responded to it.
Project Power 2020
Tested against the budget criteria and disqualified, way over $25M.
The Personal History of David Copperfield 2019
Armando Iannucci's $15M boutique release; Sean found it didn't play at home.
Always Be My Maybe 2019
Netflix rom-com used to show the visible budget-trimming: drone shots over sets, plus the Keanu cameo.
I'm Thinking of Ending Things 2020
Charlie Kaufman couldn't get $5M for years; a movie you need to rewatch, and can, because it's on Netflix.
The Irishman 2019
Amanda's line in the sand: one story told over time is a movie even if you pause it across four nights.
The Hateful Eight 2015
Netflix chapterized it into four episodic installments.
Zack Snyder's Justice League 2021
The Snyder Cut as fan-campaign afterlife: four hours split into four events, with Darkseid added via CGI.
In conversation
Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter on
Bill & Ted Face the Music 2020
On playing the guys 29 years older without caricature, and their daughters Bridget and Samara carving out their own versions.
Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter on
The Matrix Reloaded 2003
Keanu's last great thing, by his own account, one of the Wachowski sequels he rewatched in quarantine.
Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter on
The Matrix Revolutions 2003
The other Wachowski film Keanu rewatched.
Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter on
Hamilton 2020
Alex's household watched it on repeat when it hit VOD.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing SunshineLoganDeadpoolGuardians of the GalaxySuicide SquadTriple FrontierVelvet BuzzsawKraven the HunterLittle ChildrenMaliceHostBeing John MalkovichKingdom of HeavenJokerOnwardFrozen IIMulanMulan IICinderella II: Dreams Come TrueCinderella III: A Twist in TimeLady and the Tramp II: Scamp's AdventureBad Boys for LifeNever Rarely Sometimes AlwaysKillers of the Flower Moon
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV The MandalorianYellowstoneLittle Fires EverywhereThe StandStranger ThingsLovecraft CountryBrave New WorldBriar PatchthirtysomethingThe NewsroomJohn Mulaney & the Sack Lunch Bunch
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