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An Ask-Us-Anything Mailbag, and ‘I Saw the TV Glow,’ with Jane Schoenbrun

May 10, 2024/ 157 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

An ask-us-anything mailbag (AMC Stubs and what box office even measures, Survivor ruined by therapy, the diss-movie canon, one-actor filmographies, YouTube clips), then a double-header on Jane Schoenbrun's 'I Saw the TV Glow': Sean and Adam Nayman on the film, then Sean and Schoenbrun on making it.

34 films across 3 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

The MailbagSean and Amanda, with Bobby Wagner reading listener questions

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes poster

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 2024

Sean's example on the AMC Stubs question: he's seeing it in IMAX that night, reckoning his subscription down to about two dollars a ticket.

Barbie poster

Barbie 2023

Amanda's favorite billion-dollar grosser, which she'll take over Titanic despite not having lived with it as long.

Titanic poster

Titanic 1997

The other billion-dollar reference point; Sean prefers it, Amanda isn't so sure.

Dune: Part Two poster

Dune: Part Two 2024

Sean's rebuttal to the wish for smaller films: the biggest movie of the year, proof studios will keep eventizing rather than make more $18 million movies.

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts poster

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 2023

Recapped as a bit (1990s New York, a heist, a Cybertron detour, Anthony Ramos) and pronounced 'super, super good and normal.'

Transformers One poster

Transformers One 2024

The animated prequel due that September, with Chris Hemsworth and Brian Tyree Henry on voices.

Charlie Wilson's War poster

Charlie Wilson's War 2007

Sean's go-to YouTube clip: the Philip Seymour Hoffman rant that helped land PSH in the show's Hall of Fame.

Zodiac poster

Zodiac 2007

Amanda's clip: the Vallejo House of Pancakes monologue, hair standing up on the arms.

The Social Network poster

The Social Network 2010

Offered as another clip reel that stands alone, from the opening breakup on down.

A Few Good Men poster

A Few Good Men 1992

The 'you can't handle the truth' VHS-rewind scene all three name in their top four.

The Big Short poster

The Big Short 2015

Bobby's pick: Ryan Gosling chucking the Jenga blocks, after which, he says, he needs nothing else from the movie.

The Sound of Music poster

The Sound of Music 1965

Sean's childhood VHS-rewind ritual, and the movie Amanda admits she doesn't much like.

Deconstructing Harry poster

Deconstructing Harry 1997

Cited as a diss movie: Woody Allen aimed at Philip Roth, nasty and dyspeptic.

Irreconcilable Differences poster

Irreconcilable Differences 1984

The lost Charles Shyer/Nancy Meyers movie read as a Bogdanovich-Platt diss, with a Sharon Stone turn.

While We're Young poster

While We're Young 2014

Baumbach's Adam Driver character taken as a Joe Swanberg diss.

The Martian poster

The Martian 2015

Sean's evidence for his 'Wiig blindness': he can't place what Kristen Wiig is doing in it.

Jack and Jill poster

Jack and Jill 2011

Al Pacino's Dunkaccino, offered without irony as great comedic acting by a dramatic actor.

Uncut Gems poster

Uncut Gems 2019

Exhibit A for Adam Sandler going serious and nailing it.

Spaceman poster

Spaceman 2024

The Sandler swing that didn't, per Sean, but credit for trying.

Fast X poster

Fast X 2023

Sean's model of a movie that treats him like an asshole: the kind he'll always stand against.

Free Guy poster

Free Guy 2021

Same complaint, different film.

Last Stop in Yuma County poster

Last Stop in Yuma County 2024

Sean's pleasant-surprise pick: Francis Galluppi's diner-set neo-Western with Jim Cummings.

Hundreds of Beavers poster

Hundreds of Beavers 2024

The silent slapstick one (a man battling grown men in beaver costumes, Buster Keaton by way of Duck Hunt) that Sean keeps recommending.

Evil Does Not Exist poster

Evil Does Not Exist 2023

Hamaguchi's Drive My Car follow-up, which Sean wants a month to sit with before discussing the ending.

The Talented Mr. Ripley poster

The Talented Mr. Ripley 1999

Sean's first time seeing it projected, at the Aero: the room cracking up at Philip Seymour Hoffman's entrance.

Fight Club poster

Fight Club 1999

The long-rumored PTA-Fincher feud, and whether PTA minded the cancer material.

The Fall Guy poster

The Fall Guy 2024

Its 'you need glucose for cognitive function' line becomes Amanda's running note to a lunch-skipping Sean.

‘I Saw the TV Glow,’ with Adam NaymanSean and Ringer critic Adam Nayman on the film

I Saw the TV Glow poster

I Saw the TV Glow 2024

Schoenbrun's second feature: a teenager and a classmate bond over a Buffy-adjacent, late-Nickelodeon-ish show called The Pink Opaque. Nayman reads it as horror, Sean as coming-of-age; both land on Cronenberg and Lynch, the Fred Durst casting coup, and a last fifteen minutes they call harrowing.

Jane Schoenbrun on ‘I Saw the TV Glow’the writer-director in conversation with Sean

I Saw the TV Glow poster
Jane Schoenbrun on

I Saw the TV Glow 2024

Schoenbrun on building the film tone-first (shoegaze, Snick, the glow of a '90s screen), then finding character and plot on top, junking the story six times to get there, and on Fred Durst as a spice only Fred Durst could add.

We're All Going to the World's Fair poster
Jane Schoenbrun on

We're All Going to the World's Fair 2021

Their first feature, a webcam-diary internet-horror movie made with twelve people in the woods: the small canvas TV Glow steps up from.

Also mentioned raised along the way

If you could only watch one filmography: Harrison Ford WitnessWorking GirlMorning GloryPresumed InnocentThe FugitiveReturn of the JediRandom HeartsApocalypse NowRegarding HenrySabrinaClear and Present Danger

M. Emmet Walsh, three minutes at a time Blade RunnerA Time to KillCatch Me If You CanFletchThe JerkSlap ShotMikey and NickyRomeo + Juliet

Matt Damon, cameo edition InterstellarEuroTripJay and Silent Bob Strike Back

Around the mailbag WALL·EBefore SunsetDeath ProofHarry Potter and the Prisoner of AzkabanAmerican GraffitiDrive-InAliensAlmost FamousScarfaceGone with the WindStar WarsThe GodfatherThe ConversationGodzilla vs. KongDuneWild HogsDrive My CarThe Truman ShowThe MajesticMan on the MoonAmbulanceHeartburnThe Lord of the Rings: The War of the RohirrimAvengers: EndgameGuardians of the GalaxyJerry Maguire

Around ‘I Saw the TV Glow’ A Self-Induced HallucinationRoom 237Slender ManBeware the SlendermanBeau Is AfraidUnfriendedPulseScott Pilgrim vs. the WorldTake This WaltzLady BirdSynecdoche, New YorkI'm Thinking of Ending ThingsThe FacultyScreamThe Fanatic

Jane Schoenbrun's touchstones MementoRequiem for a DreamCrasheXistenZMulholland DriveLost HighwayA.I. Artificial IntelligenceLast DaysNeon Genesis Evangelion: The End of EvangelionThe Passion of Joan of ArcThe Spirit of the BeehiveDonnie DarkoOver the EdgeThe Wild OneRock 'n' Roll High SchoolDazed and ConfusedParis, TexasThe Shawshank RedemptionHard CandyVideodromeRoboCopExoticaShowgirlsThe Tenant

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Buffy the Vampire SlayerAre You Afraid of the Dark?Twin PeaksThe X-FilesThe Secret World of Alex MackClarissa Explains It AllDarkwing DuckCurb Your EnthusiasmSurvivorJeopardy!GirlsClippedBlueyThe SimpsonsThe Pink Opaque (fictional show in the film)RoboDoc: The Creation of RoboCop (documentary mini-series)

Games Duck Hunt

Podcasts The TownThe RewatchablesStick the LandingMacro Boys

Promos Ringer Movies