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‘A Complete Unknown’ Is a Bob Dylan Movie. How Does It Feel?

December 24, 2024/ 91 min/ Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan · Mallory Rubin

Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan, and Mallory Rubin, three self-described Dylan mega-fans, spend the whole episode on James Mangold's 'A Complete Unknown,' then run down the Dylan-on-screen movies that came before it.

12 films across 2 segments.

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‘A Complete Unknown’Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan, Mallory Rubin

A Complete Unknown poster

A Complete Unknown 2024

Mangold's Bob Dylan movie, covering 1961 to the 1965 Newport electric set, from a Jay Cox script Mangold rewrote, with Timothée Chalamet as Dylan, Edward Norton as Pete Seeger, Monica Barbaro as Joan Baez, Elle Fanning as the Suze Rotolo stand-in Sylvie, and Boyd Holbrook as Johnny Cash. Sean came in with 'active dread' and left stumped, admiring Chalamet (who learned guitar and sang live) and the period detail while missing any interior read on Dylan; he clocks the third act sagging and the Cuban Missile Crisis staging as too much. Mallory calls it her favorite movie in a long time (riveted, in tears at the performances) while arguing it's barely a movie, more a very long music video. Chris likes it more than he feared but faults the endless awed-onlooker reaction shots and the 'cartoonish' Alan Lomax material. All three chew on Mangold's claim that 'you can't play a question mark' and the Seeger-vs-Dylan argument about whether folk was a cause or a cage. Chris: seven Red Rooms. Mallory: four out of five cranks.

Dylan on screenthe movies that got there first

Don't Look Back poster

Don't Look Back 1967

D.A. Pennebaker's 1965 tour documentary, the source of the mean-to-Donovan legend and the case that you can't make a Dylan movie and pretend he was nice. Required viewing per Sean.

No Direction Home poster

No Direction Home 2005

Scorsese's archival doc on the exact 1961-65 stretch. Sean rewatched it after the movie; it's where Joan Baez says 'he was such a bastard' and where the opportunist read of Dylan comes through.

I'm Not There poster

I'm Not There 2007

Todd Haynes's six-actor Dylan film, the deliberate opposite of Mangold's: shatter the urn and reassemble it, Cate Blanchett doing the 'polka dot shirt' section. Sean's useful comparison point and a film he loves.

Eat the Document poster

Eat the Document 1972

The other Pennebaker Dylan document, not widely available. Sean bought a copy on eBay over the weekend.

Renaldo and Clara poster

Renaldo and Clara 1978

The four-hour film Dylan made in the '70s, barely released, the ultimate Dylanology bootleg that Rolling Thunder Revue draws from.

The Last Waltz poster

The Last Waltz 1978

Scorsese's document of The Band's final concert, where Dylan performs.

Masked and Anonymous poster

Masked and Anonymous 2003

The Larry Charles film Dylan co-wrote. Sean calls it abjectly terrible but a nice time capsule of the era.

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid poster

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 1973

Peckinpah's western, one of the movies Dylan himself is meaningful to. Chris's 'Billy number four' underdog favorite.

Hearts of Fire poster

Hearts of Fire 1987

The rare film in which Dylan stars, Richard Marquand's, with Dylan as a reclusive ex-rock-star opposite Fiona and Rupert Everett. None of them have seen it.

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Inside Llewyn Davis 2013

The Coens' folk-scene film, 'the most about Bob Dylan without being about Bob Dylan.' The one Chalamet reportedly discussed with Joel Coen, and the flipside of the awed-onlooker movie: Carey Mulligan telling Llewyn to tape his dick.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Music biopics in its shadow Walk the LineWalk Hard: The Dewey Cox StoryBohemian RhapsodyRocketman

Mangold, elsewhere Ford v FerrariIndiana Jones and the Dial of DestinyLogan

The Best Actor field The PianistThe BrutalistSing SingConclaveQueer

Chalamet, otherwise Dune: Part TwoWonkaBarbie

In passing Now, VoyagerRed RoomsThe Color of MoneyTwistersTop Gun: MaverickNosferatu

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV JustifiedSaturday Night LiveMTV UnpluggedCollege GameDayThe 30th Anniversary Concert CelebrationGE Smith Dylan interview (YouTube)Bob Dylan's Theme Time Radio Hour (SiriusXM)Talk the Thrones

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