Licorice Pizza 2021
The trailer dropped that morning; Sean watched it nine times with his daughter. Bradley Cooper as producer John Peters, plus Cooper Hoffman and Alana Haim in the leads.
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September 28, 2021/ 85 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins · Bobby Wagner
The 400th-episode mailbag. Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins, with producer Bobby Wagner, take listener questions on Oscar bets, remakes best left alone, rewatchables wish lists, and the ranking of Nancy Meyers kitchens.
94 films across 2 segments.
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Cold open: the 'Licorice Pizza' trailerbefore the mailbag
The trailer dropped that morning; Sean watched it nine times with his daughter. Bradley Cooper as producer John Peters, plus Cooper Hoffman and Alana Haim in the leads.
Cited as the precedent for a supporting Oscar off little screen time: Judi Dench won for roughly eight minutes.
Beatrice Straight's two scenes and one speech, the other short-role benchmark.
Licorice Pizza reads like a prelude to it: same San Fernando Valley, five years earlier.
The mailbaglistener questions, answered
Chalamet's nomination, in the who-hasn't-won-yet debate alongside Saoirse Ronan.
Amanda's 180: she dismissed it at 17 as a Harvard-bound nerd, now says it holds up completely.
Sean's 180: he rented it from Blockbuster, thought it had no story, later understood Linklater's independent-film logic.
The Linklater he'd already seen and loved before Slacker clicked.
The retire-it-from-remakes anxiety case: Spielberg and Kushner, but without Jerome Robbins's choreography.
Their pick for a film that should never be remade; Bobby hasn't seen it, promises to for episode 500.
Evidence of how hard the beloved-novel adaptation is: the Donna Tartt failure.
Good book, great movie: the mediocre-novel-to-great-film pattern.
Another good-book, cool-movie example from the '70s.
Plot-first source material that still works on screen.
Theodore Melfi, raising nerves about his announced DeLillo adaptation.
Melfi's just-released one, judged 'okay.'
The DeLillo book Sean keeps wishing onto the screen: a then-upcoming Baumbach adaptation.
Bobby's rewatchables suggestion; cuts too hard for him to want on the mic. Sean argues they've never done right by Jim Carrey.
Bill's long-standing rewatchables obsession.
The Michael Mann title the three of them converge on.
Craig Horlbeck's pick; Bobby's stated generation.
Amanda was promised it and it got taken away: nobody else at The Ringer wants to do it.
A rom-com they've somehow never covered.
Amanda's fall rewatch, for the freshly-sharpened-pencils line.
Amanda's most-rewatched film and her rewatchables wish.
Among the classics held on ice for the feed.
Only the 16th-biggest MCU movie but a real theatrical success, unreleased in China at the time.
The MCU floor Shang-Chi cleared.
Universal's straight-to-Peacock gamble, the how-do-you-measure-success question.
The theatrical flop the discourse tried to reframe as a streaming success.
Villeneuve as the other big-screen absolutist; a Denis interview teased for October.
Sean hated it; the scene he flagged had a moment on Twitter that weekend.
In the 'piled-on but not actually garbage' bucket.
Same: overly maligned, not garbage.
One of the few films from the pandemic stretch they actually liked; Sean and Amanda are among its defenders.
The early-pandemic sense-memory of a barren release calendar.
The 2019 run they miss: a big movie for both.
The best of what Sean had seen so far that year.
Just seen; opinion embargoed but not negative.
The 'a Venom movie's coming Friday' counterweight to the prestige slate.
Bobby's last big theatrical feeling; made $47M with Daniel Day-Lewis.
Bobby's dad-gearhead pick; Sean's shrug.
The example the question was built on, though not a Sean tradition.
Sean's wife's mandatory Christmas Day watch.
In Sean's once-a-year personal rotation.
Amanda's yearly watch, on ABC with the commercials.
The joke Thanksgiving tradition for the kid.
The joke Halloween pick for the kid.
The one film Sean insists his daughter must see; the mind-expander.
The parental-death question: how early to expose a kid to the difficult stuff.
The childhood-imprint film for Amanda's husband.
Among the movies presented to Amanda as a child.
What Bobby's parents sat him down for at 16, telling him 'here's your culture.'
A film worth being credited with, in the time-machine authorship game.
The 'take the money' answer to the same game.
Sean's pick: universally liked, and it makes you Soderbergh.
The framing example: you become Coppola at its release.
Bobby wants to be Pierce Brosnan's lifestyle in it.
Sean's revised answer: one of Schrader's lonely men.
Another Schrader lonely-man option.
Amanda's Katharine Hepburn fantasy; the screwball register they don't make anymore.
Bobby's half-joke answer for the film that built a recognizable world.
Bobby's real answer: Greg Mottola is from Long Island like him, and the setting scratched his brain.
The one that made Bobby want to be a rock journalist.
Amanda's No. 1 Nancy Meyers kitchen: the pre-renovation Santa Barbara version.
The archetypal Hamptons kitchen; Amanda insists it should never be expanded.
The lived-in '90s kitchen.
Meyers on writing only, but the Vermont cabin kitchen counts.
Real-estate-forward; the Cotswold cottage kitchen isn't functional.
Amanda's lowest-ranked kitchen: too HGTV-makeover.
Bobby's answer for 20 years of rooting for the Mets.
Sean goes bleaker: Hillcoat's McCarthy adaptation as the Mets metaphor.
Bobby's Criterion wish; the rewatchables entry he and Amanda missed.
The Criterion title they actually recorded a commentary for.
Amanda's PTA-minded Criterion wish: lots to unpack even if you don't love it.
The first date Amanda still talks about: the three-hour Lonergan tragedy; they married anyway.
Sean's most-fun four hours at the movies, alone.
Tarantino's half of the Grindhouse double feature.
Rodriguez's half.
The one that sticks out: Sean at 11, his dad taking him and five friends, first sight of Dave Chappelle.
The Mel Brooks portal that opened after Robin Hood.
Teased at the close: the Sopranos prequel film driving the next episode.
The terrible Anna Faris film outside whose screening Amanda met her husband.
A recurring Amanda reference, invoked again in the rewatchables talk.
Also mentioned raised along the way
In passing Zack Snyder's Justice League
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