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7. Ain’t War Hell? | Do We Get to Win This Time?

August 23, 2023/ 56 min/ Brian Raftery

Episode 7 of Brian Raftery's Vietnam-at-the-movies series, on how Platoon's success set off a late-'80s glut of Vietnam films, and what that boom actually showed (and what it didn't).

11 films across 1 segment.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

The post-Platoon Vietnam movie boomthe films this episode is built around

Platoon poster

Platoon 1986

Oliver Stone's low-budget epic made nearly $140M and set off what one journalist called the Vietnam Vogue.

Full Metal Jacket poster

Full Metal Jacket 1987

Kubrick's two-part film (Parris Island, then Hue during Tet), shot in cloudy England. R. Lee Ermey's drill sergeant made it a must-see.

Hamburger Hill poster

Hamburger Hill 1987

John Irvin's gruesome account of a real battle, shot in the Philippines with Department of Defense cooperation. Flopped in theaters, then became a video-store hit.

Paths of Glory poster

Paths of Glory 1957

Kubrick's earlier WWI anti-war film with Kirk Douglas; one of Oliver Stone's favorites, banned for years in France and Switzerland.

The Deer Hunter poster

The Deer Hunter 1978

Irvin called it racist and unlike the war he'd witnessed, which is why he wanted to make Hamburger Hill.

Good Morning, Vietnam poster

Good Morning, Vietnam 1987

Robin Williams as DJ Adrian Cronauer; sold by Disney as an upbeat romp, it sat at No. 1 for over two months in early 1988.

Casualties of War poster

Casualties of War 1989

Brian De Palma's brutal true-story film with Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn; a box-office failure that found its audience on cable and home video.

Apocalypse Now poster

Apocalypse Now 1979

Michael Herr wrote its narration; a cable and VHS staple that hooked a generation of underage viewers.

The Green Berets poster

The Green Berets 1968

John Wayne's pro-war film, mocked by the Marines in Gustav Hasford's The Short Timers.

Coming Home poster

Coming Home 1978

Cited as the kind of tough reckoning with the war that Good Morning Vietnam wasn't.

Welcome Home poster

Welcome Home 1989

Drama about a presumed-dead vet (Kris Kristofferson); Kieu Chinh plays his Cambodian wife, then vanishes from the film.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Kubrick's other films Dr. StrangeloveA Clockwork OrangeBarry LyndonThe ShiningEyes Wide Shut

Rambo-era action Rambo: First Blood Part IIThe Dogs of WarRaw Deal

Brian De Palma SistersScarfaceBody Double

Michael J. Fox Back to the FutureTeen Wolf

1989 competition Uncle BuckParenthood

Kieu Chinh The Joy Luck ClubOperation CIA

In passing The BirdsE.T. the Extra-TerrestrialThe 40-Year-Old Virgin

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Magnum, P.I.The A-TeamM*A*S*HFantasy IslandERFamily TiesSouth ParkWelcome Home, Veterans (HBO telethon)

Comics The 'Nam

Video games Rambo (Nintendo)FIFA World Cup Launch Edition

Music Freedom RockVietnam: Rockin' the Delta

Podcasts 22 GoalsJust Like UsGene and Roger

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