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6. I Am Reality | Do We Get to Win This Time?

August 21, 2023/ 48 min/ Brian Raftery

The Vietnam-on-film series reaches Platoon: how Oliver Stone survived Salvador, ran his cast through Dale Dye's jungle boot camp, and turned his own infantry tour into the 1986 Best Picture winner.

17 films across 1 segment.

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How Hollywood Made the Vietnam WarOliver Stone and the making of Platoon

Platoon poster

Platoon 1986

Stone's alter-ego Chris Taylor (Charlie Sheen, cast after brother Emilio Estevez aged out) between Barnes (Tom Berenger) and Elias (Willem Dafoe). Shot in 54 days in the Philippines for $6.5M; eight Oscar nominations, wins for Best Picture and Best Director. Keith David plays King.

Rambo: First Blood Part II poster

Rambo: First Blood Part II 1985

Took over the summer-1985 box office; its 'we get to win this time' jingoism was exactly what Stone set out to rebut.

Missing in Action poster

Missing in Action 1984

Grouped with Rambo as the POW-rescue films selling US troops re-fighting and winning Vietnam.

Midnight Express poster

Midnight Express 1978

The prison thriller that won Stone a screenwriting Oscar, though it never made him feel accepted in Hollywood.

Scarface poster

Scarface 1983

Stone's script for Al Pacino's remake, cited as proof of his A-list screenwriting resume.

Seizure poster

Seizure 1974

Stone's early horror film, with Herve Villechaize as a figure named Spider; part of the thin directing resume he had before Salvador.

The Hand poster

The Hand 1981

Stone's other early horror film, Michael Caine as an illustrator whose severed hand takes on a life of its own.

Salvador poster

Salvador 1986

The James Woods El Salvador thriller Stone directed first, financed by John Daly's Hemdale; pulling it off cheap is what got Platoon greenlit.

The Deer Hunter poster

The Deer Hunter 1978

Michael Cimino briefly wanted to produce Platoon; cited as the earlier Vietnam film that fixed war in a game of Russian roulette.

Apocalypse Now poster

Apocalypse Now 1979

Martin Sheen starred; Charlie Sheen visited the set as a kid. Coppola's rainy-season Philippines ordeal was the cautionary tale Stone raced to avoid.

The Big Chill poster

The Big Chill 1983

Tom Berenger came off it as a nice-guy TV star before Stone turned him into the fatalistic Sergeant Barnes.

To Live and Die in L.A. poster

To Live and Die in L.A. 1985

Dafoe had just played its sinister counterfeiter, against type from the paternal Elias.

Sands of Iwo Jima poster

Sands of Iwo Jima 1949

John Wayne WWII film, a favorite of technical advisor Dale Dye growing up in Missouri.

Saving Private Ryan poster

Saving Private Ryan 1998

Later film Dye ran military prep on, after his Platoon boot camp made the practice standard.

Forrest Gump poster

Forrest Gump 1994

Another Dye military-advising credit named alongside his later work.

The Thin Red Line poster

The Thin Red Line 1998

Named with Saving Private Ryan and Forrest Gump as films Dye prepared with military training.

Top Gun poster

Top Gun 1986

The year's biggest hit, a flag-wrapped ode to US might; Platoon's muddy counterweight.

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