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3. “The Thumbs” | Gene and Roger

July 27, 2021/ 27 min/ Brian Raftery

Brian Raftery's Siskel-and-Ebert history reaches 1982: the SNL cameo, the jump from PBS's Sneak Previews to syndicated At the Movies, and the debut of thumbs up / thumbs down.

15 films across 1 segment.

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From Sneak Previews to the thumbs

Swamp Thing poster

Swamp Thing 1982

Used to show how the critics championed movies their colleagues dismissed. A monster-movie review on PBS, with Ebert calling the comic-book flick terrific.

Apocalypse Now poster

Apocalypse Now 1979

A clip of the two arguing it out, praising the scale and the Sheen and Duvall performances; Gene later changed his mind, and they eventually devoted a whole special to Vietnam movies.

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial poster

E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial 1982

The film big enough that Justin Lin's father closed the family fish-and-chips shop early to take the kids to a 10 p.m. show at Cerritos Mall.

Mr. Mom poster

Mr. Mom 1983

Lin remembers Siskel and Ebert reviewing it and wondering aloud what it would be like with the guy from Splash, before Tom Hanks was Tom Hanks.

Splash poster

Splash 1984

Invoked in that same review as the Tom Hanks calling card, the moment Lin first grasped that movies get cast.

99 Homes poster

99 Homes 2014

One of Ramin Bahrani's films; as a kid in Winston-Salem he learned about independent and foreign movies from the show.

The White Tiger poster

The White Tiger 2021

Bahrani's later film, cited alongside 99 Homes to place the director whose film education ran through Siskel and Ebert.

Better Luck Tomorrow poster

Better Luck Tomorrow 2002

Justin Lin's breakout, the first film named in his path from watching the critics to directing.

Fast Five poster

Fast Five 2011

Lin's Fast entry, singled out as the one where they drag the safe through Rio.

F9 poster

F9 2021

Lin's then-current Fast film, released the same summer this episode aired.

Strange Brew poster

Strange Brew 1983

The comedy that asked Gene and Roger to play themselves; they declined.

Terms of Endearment poster

Terms of Endearment 1983

Two thumbs up on At the Movies, the segment used to introduce the new thumbs-up / thumbs-down verdict.

Twilight Zone: The Movie poster

Twilight Zone: The Movie 1983

A close split in the same reel: a marginal thumbs up from Gene, a close thumbs down from Roger.

Psycho II poster

Psycho II 1983

Two downturned thumbs, dismissed as a well-made but weak carbon copy of the Hitchcock original.

Three Amigos poster

Three Amigos 1986

Roger panned it on Carson with Chevy Chase sitting right next to him, proof of how much weight the thumbs now carried.

Also mentioned raised along the way

The era's vital mainstream movies (named in passing) Raging BullOrdinary PeopleKramer vs. KramerRichard Pryor: Live on the Sunset Strip

In passing Seems Like Old Times

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV Saturday Night LiveSneak PreviewsAt the MoviesLate Night with David LettermanThe Tonight Show with Johnny CarsonMasterpiece TheatreKennedy Center HonorsThe Benny Hill ShowCheersHill Street BluesPardon the Interruption

Games FIFA World Cup Launch Edition

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