The Irishman 2019
Out this week. The Scorsese movie that keeps the 'Marvel isn't cinema' fight fresh. Sean and Amanda read Coppola's 'despicable' quote and James Gunn's Groot-and-Rocket Instagram reply.
The Big Picture · Discussion · Roundtable · Interview
October 22, 2019/ 110 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins
The 200th episode: a listener mailbag on the Coppola-Scorsese Marvel feud, dream director-and-actor pairings, do-over movies, and double features, plus Sean's interview with Robert Eggers about The Lighthouse.
55 films across 9 segments.
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Coppola, Scorsese, and the Marvel throwdownopening the mailbag
Out this week. The Scorsese movie that keeps the 'Marvel isn't cinema' fight fresh. Sean and Amanda read Coppola's 'despicable' quote and James Gunn's Groot-and-Rocket Instagram reply.
The state of the moviesthe mailbag grab bag
The reference point for 'what is 2019's The Wife': the awards movie no one can find or see.
Amanda's pick for 2019's version: a Green Book buddy comedy about the Catholic Church she can't believe exists.
Amanda took one for the team and saw it; Sean hasn't.
Asked why there isn't more buzz; they've seen it under embargo and won't podcast about it yet. Out around Thanksgiving.
Not a success, but Sean admires it for chasing a new high frame rate instead of playing it safe.
The surprise Sean admits he didn't see coming; about to clear $900 million.
The 'here's the path for every nominee' exercise, with Vice as the one that was never going to win.
Sean's dream sports-movie pitch: remake it, but good, with Sorkin writing.
Sean's favorite sports movie and the model he keeps reaching for.
Sean's example of the old star economy: Chris Evans couldn't draw that kind of crowd to his version of it now.
Dream director-and-actor team-upsa recurring listener request
As close as Jim Carrey got to the quiet, vulnerable register Sean wants PTA to pull out of him.
The Adam Sandler transformation Sean wants a Carrey equivalent of.
Same idea: the PTA reinvention Sean would build around Carrey.
Sean's long-held Coen-and-Denzel wish, arriving via Joel Coen's A24 Macbeth with Frances McDormand.
Cited as the $100M hit that makes Amanda's Nancy Meyers-and-J.Lo pairing feel plausible.
The movie that most affronts usventing on request
Amanda's rant: Branagh grafts a non-canon dead-love backstory onto Poirot, then sets up a sequel Poirot could never actually solve because he arrives after the murder.
The sequel teased at the end, parked in the annual Venom/Joker October slot, which delights Sean.
Sean's pick: James Franco's adaptation of Steve Erickson's great New Hollywood novel, wrecked by the wrong tone despite a Blades-of-Glory-sized comic cast.
Top five do-over movies good premise, mishandled, and how they'd fix it
Great premise, great lead performance, didn't stick the landing. She wanted more.
Keep Leo, keep Baz: it understood Lana Del Rey but not Gatsby.
From a place of love: Hustlers before Hustlers, without the follow-through; push the fame-and-delusion levers harder.
Keep Roberts and Owen; she still can't follow the last three-quarters.
Keep everyone, skinny it down: lose the Idris Elba framing device, focus it into a week-in-the-life.
Just let Lord and Miller finish their version; he doesn't care about Ron Howard's.
A Michael Mann miss; try swapping Depp and Bale so Depp plays the lawman.
Keep Will Smith and Charlize Theron, but make the R-rated Vince Gilligan-script version.
Best first hour Apatow's ever made; redo the second half as a James Brooks movie, less Eric Bana and Leslie Mann.
The set we'd sit in onone entire production, start to finish
Amanda's only real answer: be the 12th on a fun Soderbergh set in the Clooney-Pitt-Damon prank era.
Sean's answer: the long, painful, fracturing Kubrick shoot with Tom and Nicole, watched in real time.
A dream double featuredifferent directors, decades, and genres
The Joker pairing Amanda wants to program at the ArcLight.
Anchor of Amanda's cheating four-film run of working-woman comedies.
Second in that run.
Third, one of the two Nancy Meyers-adjacent entries.
Closes out Amanda's set.
First leg of Sean's greed triple bill.
The great Gene Hackman movie in the middle Sean thinks people haven't seen.
Sean's closer: three films in concert but not quite the same genre.
Best and worst Best Picture of the decadeclosing on the Oscars
Sean's best win by far, proof he doesn't actually know what Academy voters will do.
Sean's worst win by far, a Weinstein movie, brutal campaign, good riddance.
Amanda's single worst call, over The Social Network.
Their best-movie-of-the-decade theory; they want the Fincher-Sorkin sequel.
Appreciated, if not their favorite of its year.
Enjoyed and appreciated.
Same, though Sean doesn't think it should have won.
Sean's bigger problem win from a tough year.
Robert Eggers on 'The Lighthouse'
The batshit, black-and-white two-hander with Pattinson and Dafoe, written with his brother Max in period coastal dialect, storyboarded shot for shot and, per Eggers, meant to be funny.
The surprise hit that opened doors; Eggers picks control over scale every time. Black Phillip the goat was impossible; you can't train a goat.
Where Dafoe already had the post-Van Gogh beard he'd grow into a sea god's.
Cited among the confined two-and-three-handers Eggers looked at.
Tarkovsky's specificity made Eggers feel he'd had the same childhood: his lesson in the detail it takes to transport a viewer.
The one Viking movie Eggers can name, beardless Kirk Douglas and all, teed up ahead of his own bearded Viking revenge project.
Eggers' answer to 'the last great thing you've seen': Trey Edward Shults turning his influences into something new.
Also mentioned raised along the way
Coppola and Marvel touchstones The GodfatherThe ConversationApocalypse NowLa StradaStar WarsIron ManThe AvengersJojo RabbitParasite
In passing Fight ClubRachel Getting MarriedSpider-Man: Into the Spider-VerseAlienThe Wild BunchFour Weddings and a FuneralZombieland: Double TapThe Lego MovieCloudy with a Chance of MeatballsBroadcast NewsUncut GemsBlades of GloryThe RoomMatch PointDumb and DumberFaustPredatorNosferatu
Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads
TV His Dark MaterialsThe Lord of the Rings (Amazon series)Rhythm + FlowBreaking BadGame of ThronesHomelandPeppa Pig
Web/other NBA DesktopTake HunterNBA Palooza
Podcasts The RewatchablesPressBoxUnspooledBlank CheckFilmspotting