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10 Predictions About the Future of Movies. Plus: Ron Howard!

July 28, 2020/ 103 min/ Sean Fennessey · Amanda Dobbins

A mailbag on what movies become after COVID, an Olivia de Havilland remembrance, and Sean's talk with Ron Howard about the fire documentary Rebuilding Paradise.

33 films across 3 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

In memoriamOlivia de Havilland and John Saxon

The Heiress poster

The Heiress 1949

Sean's de Havilland recommendation: William Wyler's take on Henry James's Washington Square, recently reissued by Criterion.

Enter the Dragon poster

Enter the Dragon 1973

Sean's shout-out to the late John Saxon, a great character actor.

Tenebrae poster

Tenebrae 1982

Saxon in Dario Argento's giallo.

Joe Kidd poster

Joe Kidd 1972

Saxon opposite Clint Eastwood.

The future-of-movies mailbaglistener questions on what the movies even are now

Tenet poster

Tenet 2020

The recurring subject: fourth date change, going international August 26th before a U.S. Labor Day window that nobody trusts. Sean and Amanda war-game a road trip to Vancouver to see it, then remember the border is closed.

The New Mutants poster

The New Mutants 2020

The running gag: 'death, taxes, and The New Mutants is never coming out.' A Fox holdover whose HBO contract blocks a Disney+ or PVOD dodge.

The French Dispatch poster

The French Dispatch 2021

Another Fox-era holdover; Wes Anderson likely has a theatrical clause, so undated rather than PVOD.

Palm Springs poster

Palm Springs 2020

The counterexample they both loved: a well-received film with a slow-burn, less front-loaded rollout, though not a $100M opening.

The Last Duel poster

The Last Duel 2021

Sean's example of an original, star-driven, $100M-capable movie that just quietly slipped to fall 2021.

Trolls World Tour poster

Trolls World Tour 2020

Universal's PVOD experiment, cited as maybe a predictor, maybe just cutting losses.

The Rental poster

The Rental 2020

Dave Franco's directorial debut opened on ~420 drive-in screens and did decent business.

Scoob! poster

Scoob! 2020

Warner Bros. moved it to PVOD, then HBO Max within six weeks.

Extraction poster

Extraction 2020

Netflix's inflated viewership claims as a stand-in for the death of transparent numbers.

Triple Frontier poster

Triple Frontier 2019

Amanda's evidence the Netflix numbers are a lie: nobody she knows watched it despite the reported 63 million.

Ron Howard on Rebuilding Paradise

Rebuilding Paradise poster
Ron Howard on

Rebuilding Paradise 2020

The National Geographic verite doc following residents of Paradise, CA after the 2018 Camp Fire. The film he's promoting.

Made in America poster
Ron Howard on

Made in America 2013

His first documentary, on Jay-Z's Philadelphia festival; a Robert Altman's-Nashville tapestry approach that Jonathan Demme talked him into.

Rush poster
Ron Howard on

Rush 2013

He was in post on it when the Jay-Z doc offer came in.

Beyond the Mat poster
Ron Howard on

Beyond the Mat 1999

A Brian Grazer wrestling doc Howard pitched in on before directing his own.

Pavarotti poster
Ron Howard on

Pavarotti 2019

His third music doc, again with producer Nigel Sinclair.

Das Boot poster
Ron Howard on

Das Boot 1981

The structural model for the Beatles doc: men in a bubble who can't see how the war is going.

Nashville poster
Ron Howard on

Nashville 1975

Altman's multi-perspective template for Made in America.

Backdraft poster
Ron Howard on

Backdraft 1991

He made a fire movie, and says the Paradise footage makes it 'nothing.'

Hillbilly Elegy poster
Ron Howard on

Hillbilly Elegy 2020

He cut it in a room next door to Paradise, borrowing a doc-editing trick to fix a scene.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Named in passing MulanA Quiet Place Part IITop Gun: MaverickAvatar: The Way of WaterInceptionThe WretchedHamiltonOnce Upon a Time in HollywoodThe LovebirdsJawsStar WarsMarriage StoryLucy in the SkyGroundhog DayDirty Dancing

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

TV YellowstoneI May Destroy YouNormal PeopleRamy

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