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1. Give ’Em Hell | Do We Get to Win This Time?

August 8, 2023/ 40 min/ Brian Raftery

Episode 1 of Brian Raftery's Vietnam-on-film series: how Hollywood spent a decade dodging the war, from the WWII pictures that romanticized combat to John Wayne's Green Berets and the documentaries no studio would touch.

16 films across 4 segments.

AI-generated This episode was transcribed and analyzed with AI models. The matches aren't perfect — expect the occasional misheard title or a link to the wrong film.

Platoon breaks the sealThe 1987 Oscars and the wave that followed

Platoon poster

Platoon 1986

Won four Oscars including Best Picture; Oliver Stone spent a decade getting it made and called it a catharsis.

Hollywood's early Vietnam flopsBefore The Green Berets, nobody could sell the war

A Yank in Vietnam poster

A Yank in Vietnam 1964

Marshall Thompson traveled to Saigon to direct and star, and was grazed by gunfire on set. The film is now completely lost.

The Ugly American poster

The Ugly American 1963

Marlon Brando in a thriller set in a fictitious Southeast Asian stand-in for Vietnam, much of it shot in Thailand.

Operation CIA poster

Operation CIA 1965

Burt Reynolds as an undercover agent in Saigon; barely a Vietnam movie, at one point he fights a boa constrictor.

The Quiet American poster

The Quiet American 1958

Mankiewicz's adaptation of the Graham Greene novel; the role Kieu Chinh couldn't take went to an Italian actor.

John Wayne makes The Green BeretsFor years, the only studio movie about Vietnam

The Green Berets poster

The Green Berets 1968

Wayne produced, starred in, and co-directed it, securing tanks, planes and troops from the Pentagon in exchange for script approval. Critics savaged it and Wayne himself later called it propaganda, but it was one of the biggest hits of 1968.

The documentaries that fought backAnti-war films no distributor wanted

In the Year of the Pig poster

In the Year of the Pig 1969

Emil de Antonio's doc drew bomb threats and had 'traitors' painted across a screen; an Oscar nomination still couldn't get it a wide release.

Winter Soldier poster

Winter Soldier 1972

Vets testifying to atrocities over a weekend in Detroit, with a brief cameo from a young John Kerry. Played Cannes; no U.S. distributor picked it up.

Hearts and Minds poster

Hearts and Minds 1974

Peter Davis's million-dollar doc; Columbia got cold feet and Warner released it. Its 1975 Best Documentary win set off producer Bert Schneider's on-air message from the Viet Cong and Bob Hope's furious rebuttal.

Also mentioned raised along the way

Hollywood's WWII movies CasablancaThe Great EscapeThe Dirty DozenThe Bridge on the River KwaiInvisible AgentThe Longest Day

Late-'60s escapism The Odd CoupleFunny GirlThe Love Bug

In passing All About EveThe Philadelphia StoryHellcats of the NavyThis Is the ArmyEasy RiderThe Last Picture ShowRosemary's BabyPlanet of the Apes

Not films filtered out: TV, games, ads

Books The Sympathizer

Podcasts 22 GoalsJust Like UsGene and Roger

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